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In-Between Charges

Mike Hawkes & Kevin Spangenberg
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  • Fixing EV Charging in America: Building Better Networks with Chris Kaiser from PlugIn
    In this episode of In-Between Charges, Kevin and Mike welcome Chris Kaiser, founder of PlugIn and longtime clean energy advocate. Chris shares his journey from energy-efficient lighting to launching his own EV charging network, which is built on reliability, a great driver experience, and, now, the Monta platform. His story offers a candid look at what it takes to build a charging business in the U.S. from the ground up.They dive into why many early charging efforts failed, the dominance of Tesla and ChargePoint, and why Chris believes ownership and accountability are key to long-term success. He explains how metrics like PlugShare scores and kWh per day guide his team’s approach, and how pairing strong software with trusted hardware is helping Plug In grow.The conversation also covers the uncertain policy landscape, including tax credits and NEVI funding, and why Chris remains optimistic. His belief is simple: EVs are just better—and that’s what will drive adoption forward. If you care about the future of charging in the U.S., this is an episode you won’t want to miss.Happy charging!
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  • Smart Solutions for Fleet Electrification and Cost Efficiency with Heiko Bayer from The Mobility House
    In this episode of In-Between Charges, hosts Kevin Spangenberg and Mike Hawkes talk with Heiko Bayer, Managing Director at The Mobility House. Heiko shares how the company is helping fleets transition to electric a smarter approach to fleet management, and energy market integrations. He explains how The Mobility House reduces their client’s costs, increases their reliability, and simplifies the electrification for businesses across Europe, North America and Asia.The conversation explores trends shaping the EV industry, one continent versus the next. In Europe, corporate and logistics fleets are electrifying fast, while in the U.S., school bus and transit fleets are leading the space, tapping into bidirectional charging already. Heiko explains why The Mobility House takes on an agnostic approach - not locking people in, but rather unlocking the best offer and chances for operational efficiency with unnecessary costs.As EV adoption grows, the role of energy management is becoming more important. Heiko discusses how integrating smart charging, battery storage, and renewable energy can make fleet electrification more affordable. Whether you're an industry professional or just interested in EVs, this episode offers key insights into the future of mobility.Happy charging!
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  • EV Charging’s Big Bet: Automakers, Policy Uncertainty, and the Push for Profitability with Ryan Fisher from BloombergNEF (he’s back!)
    In this episode of In-Between Charges, we welcome back Ryan Fisher, Head of Charging Infrastructure at BloombergNEF, for an insightful discussion on the evolving EV charging landscape. With automakers increasingly stepping into the charging business, we explore how their strategies are shifting—balancing investment in infrastructure with the need for profitability. Ryan shares his take on why major players like IONNA and Ionity are forming joint ventures, how automakers are leveraging charging networks to enhance brand loyalty, and whether the business model can ever be as lucrative as selling vehicles.Beyond industry strategies, we also dive into the growing impact of policy changes on the EV ecosystem. From shifting fuel economy standards in the U.S. to evolving CO₂ regulations in Europe, Ryan explains how government intervention is shaping investment decisions. He also unpacks the recent volatility in EV adoption forecasts, the implications of paused NEVI funding, and why some markets are seeing surging charging costs while others remain competitive. With policy uncertainty looming, is the industry at an inflection point?Finally, we tackle the economic realities of charging infrastructure—where margins remain tight despite growing demand. Ryan sheds light on the challenges facing hardware manufacturers, the potential role of carbon credits in sustaining networks, and whether automakers will remain invested in charging long-term or eventually offload their networks. With insights from BloombergNEF’s latest research and real-world case studies, this episode is a must-listen for anyone following the future of EV charging, policy, and electrification.Happy charging!
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  • The role of community in driving clean energy forward, with Gavin Morse from Egg
    In this episode, we chat with Gavin Morse, CMO of Egg, about how community-driven initiatives are making clean energy more accessible, reducing strain on the grid, and creating new opportunities for consumers.Here’s what we cover:How the UK became Europe’s top EV market and what’s next.The impact of local initiativesMaking clean energy affordable: practical solutions for EV charging, solar, and home batteries.How Egg Energy measures the impact of its community initiatives, balancing business outcomes with contributions to the broader energy transition.Exploring other community-focused strategies Egg Energy is using to engage local groups and drive wider adoption of clean energy solutions.Building a brand in an industry where customer loyalty to utility companies is rare, and how Egg Energy fosters trust with its customers.If you’re looking for practical solutions to make clean energy more accessible, or want to understand how communities are driving the change needed for a sustainable future, don’t miss this episode. Tune in for a fresh perspective on how communities are shaping the future of energy.
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  • Adapting to change: How the EV charging industry is preparing for 2025
    In this episode, Mike and Kevin sit down with Rikard Boije af Gennäs, head of Implement Consulting’s e-mobility division, to reflect on the challenges of 2024 and discuss what’s on the horizon for the EV and charging sector in 2025.Here’s what we cover:Lessons from 2024: Why EV demand didn’t meet expectations and what it means for the industry.Charging operators’ challenges: How operators are adapting to a tougher market and what strategies might work in 2025.Global shifts: How international politics and trade dynamics could impact EV growth.Consumers trends in 2025: What’s changing for buyers and how the industry is responding.Myth busting: Addressing a common misconception about the EV and charging industry.Whether you’re in the business or just interested in the future of electric vehicles, this episode is packed with valuable insights to help you understand where the sector is heading.Tune in to prepare for 2025!
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This is In-Between Charges, the perfect podcast to listen to while your EV charges. The hosts, Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg from Monta, bring you all the information about what happens in between charges, behind your charge points and behind the scenes of the EV ecosystem. Hear from leaders and experts in the EV and transportation industry who will discuss the hottest topics around EV’s and EV charging.
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