FinOpsPod

Episode 48 Advocating for Billing Features
Connecting two FinOps community call threads on getting SaaS vendors to improve billing data, featuring Mike Rosenberg of Nubank’s two-year push that led a major vendor to ship a requested billing capability in private preview. Helped by persistent, fact-based advocacy, networking with engineers, and renewal leverage. The episode also highlights a FinOpsX 2025 talk by Laurent Kiss and Priyanka Pandey (Delivery Hero) outlining four moves to drive vendor adoption of FOCUS format.
00:00 Welcome Back FinOps Pod
00:27 Mike’s Vendor Win Story
01:47 How He Worked the Process
03:11 Leverage and Business Case
05:04 Two Community Calls Connect
06:12 Delivery Hero Four Moves
07:31 Ask Precisely Not Just Small
08:21 Focus Versions Reality Check
09:29 Scale the Ask as Community
10:32 Before You Ask Check Support
10:51 Wrap Up and Call to Action
Join the Tech Value Community
Get Started with FOCUS Data Sets
How to Work with Your SaaS Providers and Internal Stakeholders for Broad FOCUS™ Adoption
Mike Rosenberg

Episode 47 Benjamin van der Maas: Using AI to Scale FinOps
Benjamin van der Maas discusses how his team is using AI to scale their FinOps efforts. Topics covered include the necessary groundwork for effective AI implementation, the importance of domain expertise, and how AI can streamline reporting and analysis. The conversation also touches on AI's role in sustainability and the potential challenges of relying on large language models (LLMs).
Automating Anomaly Investigation with AI - YouTube
FinOps Certified: FinOps for AI
Benjamin van der Maas | LinkedIn

Episode 46 Brad Payne: Integrating FinOps and Business Strategy
Brad Payne, who leads the FinOps team at PointClickCare, shares how his team tackled cloud cost challenges not by jumping straight into optimization — but by focusing first on allocation and unit economics. That shift helped them uncover how cloud costs connected to specific products, customers, and revenue — sparking deeper collaboration with finance, pricing and packaging, and product teams. This resulted in FinOps moving beyond infrastructure to influence real business decisions.
FinOps Certified: FinOps for AI
Brad Payne | LinkedIn

Episode 45 Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - Revisiting FinOps as Product, 3 Years Later
Kim Wier & Ron Tatro return to share how their FinOps products have evolved over the last 3 years at Target. They share success and challenges they have had with forecasting both public and private clouds, the impact the introduction of AI has had, and how they provide cost, stability and tech debt information to over 5,000 developers. And they make it all sound approachable!
FinOps as a Product - Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - YouTube
Ron Tatro | LinkedIn
Kim Wier | LinkedIn

Episode 44 Larry Advey - Leveraging FOCUS for Stakeholder Management
Larry Advey discusses the significance of standardizing FinOps nomenclature through the FOCUS (FinOps Cost and Usage Specification) project to streamline communication across multi-provider environments. Larry shares his insights on the impact of FOCUS in reducing confusion among stakeholders by creating a unified language for billing data. The episode also highlights Larry’s experiences from recent FinOps events, upcoming plans for FinOpsX, and the importance of engaging with the community for continuous improvement.
00:00 Welcome to FinOpsPod
01:25 January Recap and FinOpsX Planning
06:28 Focus Project and Stakeholder Management
09:36 The Role of a Focus Maintainer
16:23 The Vision for Focus
20:11 Exploring FOCUS Nomenclature
21:09 Utilizing the FOCUS Sandbox
21:32 Diving into Use Cases
22:49 Navigating the Focus Website
29:12 Engaging with the FinOps Community
34:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
FinOps X 2025 - The Home of FinOps
FOCUS Sandbox
FOCUS™ - FinOps Open Cost & Usage Specification
Larry Advey | LinkedIn