Episode 323 | Autonomy Markets: Uber’s Autonomous Investments Won’t Be Modest, With or Without Waymo
This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Uber’s growing autonomous vehicle investments and why they won’t be modest. While Uber publicly framed their autonomy spending as “modest” and emphasized share buybacks, CEO Dara Khosrowshahi made it clear on the company’s Q2 2025 earnings call that more OEM partnerships and AV deals are on the horizon. At the same time, Uber pointed to “recycling” past investments, raising the question: why recycle when the company’s growing free cash flow can support both increased buybacks and significant investments in the autonomy ecosystem? Is this simply a bid to reassure Wall Street while simultaneously preparing for an autonomous future?Anything is possible and we broke it all down on this week’s edition of Autonomy Markets along with Lyft’s renewed interest in autonomy and their willingness to invest and own assets. As Lyft prepares to spend (with a smaller balance sheet), Uber’s autonomy investments will be anything but modest.Episode Chapters0:00 Uber’s Autonomy Investments Narrative 3:49 Who Finances Robotaxi Fleets?6:16 What is Holding Back Growth of AVs?8:26 Autonomous Driving Systems10:20 Uber’s AV Exclusive Deals 12:05 Uber Recycling Investments 16:09 Uber’s Relationship with Waymo 18:49 Lyft is Leaning into Autonomy21:52 Lyft Partners with Baidu for Europe and UK Markets 2428 Managing AV Fleets 28:24 Aurora LIVE31:24 Zoox NHTSA Exemption 32:47 Autonomy Expands the Rideshare Market 37:33 Next WeekRecorded on Thursday, August 7, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Episode 322 | Nuro, Uber & Lucid Strike Gold: Inside the Global Three-Way Deal Transforming Autonomy
Andrew Chapin, Chief Operating Officer, Nuro joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss Nuro’s three-way partnership with Uber and Lucid Motors, which will see Uber exclusively deploy the Lucid Gravity robotaxi powered by Nuro on their platform.In a deal that clearly validates their bold pivot to licensing, Uber has committed to deploying 20,000 Nuro powered robotaxis globally on the Uber network over the next six years, with the potential for significantly greater scale as the partnership matures.This isn’t just another robotaxi announcement, this could be the blueprint for the future of robotaxi deployment. An autonomous driving software developer licenses its technology to an OEM, which integrates the software and hardware at the factory, while a third party owns and operates the vehicles on a commercial network.Episode Chapters0:00 Nuro x Lucid x Uber Deal4:55 Going Global6:39 Building the Lucid Gravity Robotaxi13:15 Maintaining the Robotaxi16:07 Nuro Hardware19:41 What’s Next?23:10 Nuro’s Business Discipline 26:58 Preparing for Market Launches31:31 Highways33:08 Operations 35:13 Looking ForwardRecorded on Tuesday, July 29, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Episode 321 | Autonomy Markets: Waymo Leaves Uber in Austin and the Tesla Double Standard
This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Waymo’s expansion to Dallas without Uber, instead partnering with Avis and renewing a relationship that dates back to 2017 and the emerging Tesla double standard. Waymo’s multi-year partnership with Avis signals the company’s desire to maintain flexibility, rather than locking into exclusive partnerships. With Avis once again joining the autonomous vehicle industry as a service provider, could Hertz and Enterprise be next to jump back in to the industry? As Waymo continues to expand to new markets, Tesla ha recently launched a ride-hailing service in the San Francisco Bay Area, covering a vast service area from San Jose to Berkeley, albeit with safety drivers due to California’s regulatory constraints.Staying in the policy theme, Waymo is facing fierce resistance in Boston, where several City Council members are attempting to ban autonomous vehicles unless a safety driver is present. The opposition underscores the uphill battle autonomous vehicles companies still face in when expanding to new markets. Then there is the Tesla double standard. No matter what the company does, someone seemingly will find something wrong, something to nitpick and something to complain about. From social media to regulatory hearings, the double standard is real, and unfortunately it is shaping some aspect of the public autonomous vehicle narrative.Episode Chapters0:00 Waymo Expands to Dallas2:07 Waymo Partners with Avis Once Again6:19 Dallas Robotaxi Market8:24 Rental Car Companies11:31 Waymo Highway Testing13:30 Waymo’s Unfriendly Boston Welcome 19:28 Tesla’s Bay Area Ride-Hail Expansion 22:04 Tesla and Waymo’s Rabid Fans 25:39 Tesla Robotaxi27:48 Tesla & Waymo’s Impact on Uber29:03 Autonomous Trucking31:45 Aurora 34:52 Investor Interest in Autonomous Trucking36:04 Next WeekRecorded on Thursday, July 31, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Episode 320 | America Can’t Build Without Autonomous Construction Equipment
Kevin Peterson, Co-Founder & CTO, Bedrock Robotics joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss the growing labor shortage in the construction industry and how Bedrock is developing autonomous construction equipment to help builders keep building.America’s construction industry is facing a crisis with a shortage of 500,000 workers delaying projects by an average of two months and costing $2.7 billion annually. Bedrock is looking to solve that problem as they are building autonomous construction equipment using machine learning techniques such as imitation learning and reinforcement learning to teach machines how to dig, move, and adapt in real-world job sites.Throughout the conversation, Grayson and Kevin explore the economic, technical, and operational challenges facing the construction sector, from power constraints slowing down data center builds to safety risks on chaotic job sites and how autonomy can solve these growing issues. Episode Chapters0:00 From Cars and Trucks to Construction 3:16 Automating Construction Equipment 9:51 OEM Partnerships 10:49 Construction Partners 12:55 Data16:56 Deploying Autonomous Construction Equipment 24:00 Challenges 26:15 Job Creation 28:09 Human to Machine Ratio30:28 Bedrock OS33:40 Maps34:29 Construction TAMRecorded on Thursday, July 24, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Episode 319 | Autonomy Markets: Tesla and Waymo are Scaling, While Zoox's Strategy Sparks Doubt
This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Tesla and Alphabet’s Q2 2025 earnings calls, Tesla’s growing robotaxi ambitions and the launch of Zoox’s limited fixed-route service in Las Vegas.Tesla’s Robotaxi expansion ambitions are growing, and on their Q2 2025 earnings call, Elon Musk disclosed that Tesla is looking to expand robotaxi service to Nevada, Florida, Arizona and the Bay Area as soon as this weekend. Two key factors behind Tesla’s ability to scale quickly are its expansive Supercharger network and its streamlined sensor suite, which is much simpler than those used by Waymo.In Las Vegas, Zoox which requires a robust sensor-suite opened service to members of the public through what the company calls an “Explorers Program”. The operation is highly restricted running only between Resorts World and Luxor, with every ride requiring concierge assistance, giving it the feel of a Disneyland ride rather than an robotaxi service.While robotaxis are scaling, the autonomous trucking industry continues to work through its business model. Multiple models are emerging, with some companies focused on licensing their technology and others building vertically integrated operations.This week, Walt joined the PACCAR earnings call to ask a question about their partnership with Aurora.Episode Chapters0:00 Tesla Q2 2025 Earnings / Robotaxi4:26 FSD Take Rate6:53 Safety9:38 Robotaxi Expansion to Las Vegas?11:15 Zoox Las Vegas Service17:55 Who Launches Commercial Service First in Vegas? Zoox or Tesla?18:46 Amazon’s Commitment to Zoox21:24 Scaling Robotaxi26:31 Robotaxi Bay Area Launch28:21 VW’s Continued Autonomous Driving Struggles 32:36 Alphabet’s Commitment to Waymo34:14 Bot Auto Steves & Sons Partnership 37:24 Autonomous Trucking40:02 PACCAR Q2 2205 Earnings Call45:19 Next WeekRecorded on Friday, July 25, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
How would you feel if the transport truck beside you on the highway had no driver? Or the car passing beside you had no driver? Would it make a difference if the widespread deployment of autonomous trucks could ease supply chain problems almost overnight and that autonomous vehicles do not get distracted or speed? And would you feel better if you knew autonomous trucks and vehicles could reduce carbon emissions by 30 percent or more. Learn more from world's leading mobility experts on The Road to Autonomy®, an ahead-of-the-curve podcast hosted by Grayson Brulte.
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