Tariffs Aren’t Going Away | PIMCO’s Policy Head Libby Cantrill on Trade and Tax Environment In New U.S. Administration
Libby Cantrill, Managing Director and Head of Public Policy at PIMCO, joins Monetary Matters to explain her outlook on U.S. trade and tax policy. Cantrill argues that while Trump administration has flexibility in tariff negotiations and that the China tariffs are likely headed much lower (a prediction that already looks like it will come true), tariffs are not going away anytime soon and she views the 10% tariffs on the world as a floor, with reciprocal tariffs on top of that floor especially on China being elevated. Cantrill also shares her views on sectoral tariffs, the rumored “Mar-a-Lago Accord” (she doesn’t think it has traction), and tax cuts. Recorded the afternoon of April 22, 2025.
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Preparing For A Real Credit Cycle | Danny Moses on Tariff Fatigue, Private Credit, Gold, Tarnishing of U.S. Brand, and Why Stocks Still Aren’t Cheap
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What happens to Private Credit in a slowdown? Are fears of tariffs overblown? Danny Moses of “The Big Short” renown joins Monetary Matters to share his views on these important issues and more. Recorded April 17 2025.
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Breaking The Dollar System | Freya Beamish
Freya Beamish, Chief Economist at TS Lombard, joins Jack to argue why American tariff policy is accelerating a transition to a multi-polar international monetary order. She estimates that U.S. and China will reach a deal lowering tariffs to ~30% levels and shares her views on bonds and gold. Recorded on April 14, 2025.
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The World Is Dumping U.S. Assets | Julian Brigden
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Julian Brigden Co-Founder of MI2 Partners joins Monetary Matters to discuss why the dramatic shift in US trade policy is making non-US investors dump US assets and bring home the profits from a historic bull run in US assets. He also explains why this repatriation of profits coupled with an eventual slowdown in the flow of dollars driven by tariff policy itself spells a weaker dollar and trouble for US financial markets, even if it does result in American reindustrialization. Recorded April 15, 2025.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:53 The Whole World is Overweight the US
09:55 Tariffs Slow the Dollar Flow
17:54 Selling US Assets is Prudent for Foreign Investors
26:42 Who Wins in the US Domestic Economy?
29:56 MacroCapture
34:58 Tariffs Have Been a Carpet-bomb Approach
44:06 Tariffs = Stagflation
49:43 Tariff Effects on China and Europe
54:04 Are Risks Greater in the US?
01:00:13 Will Foreign Markets Outperform on US Weakness or Their Strength?
01:04:32 Bond Market Outlook
01:10:24 Gold Outlook
01:12:50 Reading the Tape to Detect Market Participants
01:18:16 Where is the Trump Put?
01:22:21 America’s Liz Truss Moment
01:25:59 Credit Trades and HYG
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Dodging Tariff Turmoil in Nordic High Yield Credit | Måns Levin of Ridge Capital
Måns Levin, CEO and co-founder of Ridge Capital, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss why they believe the Nordic high yield credit market provides unique opportunities for double-digit returns and insolation from tariff and trade war risks. Levin discusses the exceptional start Ridge Capital has had, both in terms of performance and asset raising, the specific features and composition of the Nordic high yield market that they find most attractive, and the flexibility in strategies required to take full advantage of the opportunities they see.
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