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    The Right to Strike

    22/05/2026 | 42 min
    In the latest episode of ‘Working Life’, IER Chairperson Lord John Hendy KC discusses the right to strike in the UK with Professor Tonia Novitz, a leading academic in labour law at the University of Bristol Centre for Law at Work. She sits on the advisory board of the International Lawyers Assisting Workers (ILAW) and is co-editor of ‘The Right to Strike Reimagined’ (Bloomsbury 2026,) as well as co-author of ‘The Right to Strike in International Law’ (Bloomsbury 2021). 
    In this second instalment of the Working Life Podcast, Lord Hendy KC and Professor Novitz begin with a historical discussion of the first recorded instances of strike action in Ancient Egypt, and what we mean today by calling for an enshrined positive ‘Right to Strike’. The Employment Rights Act 2025 took the necessary step of repealing contemporary anti-union legislation such as the majority of the Trade Union Act (2016) and the MSL (Strikes) Act 2023, and our speakers discuss how far this will go to address the restrictions that have been placed on workers’ ability to strike over the past 40 years. 
    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction to the Right to Strike and its History
    07:37 What is meant by exercising the ‘Right to Strike’
    13:06 Contemporary attempts at restricting the power to take industrial action
    14:40 The Employment Rights Act 2025 and the right to strike omission
    18:30 The P&O Ferry dispute 
    21:17 New changes to balloting, picketing law and strike mandates
    25:40 The extension of protection from dismissal and detriment for taking industrial action
    28:00 International Labour Standards and the Right to Strike
    35:20 The Role of the International Labour Organization
    Key quotations:
    “The architecture and framework of very coercive [anti-union] legislation has been retained. This Government has modified and repealed aspects of the TU act 2016, and more importantly that terrible piece of legislation the Minimum Services Levels (Strikes) Act 2023, but that requirement of a ballot, those requirements of notification to the employer, though they have been tinkered with and are not as cruel and stringent as they were, they do basically remain the same”. (Professor Novitz)
     “Without some kind of solidarity action being possible […] you had no way to place adequate pressure on the employer to adhere to their collective agreements and to pay workers a reasonable sum for their labour or even to comply with the law” (Professor Novitz on the P&O Ferry dispute)
  • The IER Podcast

    The Working Life Podcast - by the Institute of Employment Rights

    05/02/2026 | 27 min
    Welcome to the new 2nd season of the Institute of Employment Rights Podcast. In this episode, Prof Nicola Countouris (UCL & IER) and Lord John Hendy KC (UCL & IER), discuss the implications of the Government's new Employment Rights Act (2025).
    Topics covered are:
    - Worker Status
    - Sectoral bargaining
    - Industrial Action Legislation
    - Effective remedies for workers
    - Could P&O happen again after the Act?
  • The IER Podcast

    Strike Rights: Are UK Workers Getting A Raw Deal?

    21/01/2025 | 33 min
    "Having the right to strike doesn't mean you have to exercise it. The point is to have the right in order that workers ultimately have leverage in negotiations."
    - Lord John Hendy KC
    Without improved support for workers’ right to strike, will Labour’s new Employment Rights Bill leave British workers over-exposed and under-protected?
    In conversation with Institute of Employment Rights Director, James Harrison, leading labour law experts Lord John Hendy KC and Prof. Keith Ewing address the failure of the Bill to meet the UK's obligations under international employment law.
    They question if the new bodies created under the Bill have the teeth to fill the void left by a properly resourced Ministry of Labour - Britain is one of only a handful of developed nations that do not have a Labour Minister running their own department.
    " Businesses, employers will be laughing at unions all the way through the process, because they know that at the end of the day, they can keep the union out."
    - Professor Keith Ewing
    Pointing to the shortcomings in the Bill regarding the right to strike, union access to workplaces and adequate enforcement agencies, these two industrial law heavyweights raise the prospect that - even under the new legislation - there could be a repeat of the P&O case, where almost 800 sailors were summarily dismissed.

    Topics & Questions:
    The Right To Strike: Is the UK violating international law by restricting workers' right to strike?
    Still No Ministry Of Labour: Will the new Fair Work Agency be strong enough to truly protect workers?
    Workplace Access: Can unions overcome the obstacles in Labour's new bill to effectively advocate for workers?

    Chapters:
    00:00 Welcome
    01:26 The Right To Strike: A Fundamental Human Right
    02:51 Britain's International Obligations On The Right To Strike
    05:15 Electronic Ballots For Strike Action
    08:03 Labour Party Commitments Dropped
    15:28 Workplace Access Rights For Trade Unions
    19:51 Remedies For Unions Vs Employers: A Legal Mis-Match
    21:21 Union Access: How It Works Outside The UK
    23:21 New Agencies, Limited Powers, No Labour Ministry
    28:08 Inadequate Enforcement On Behalf Of Workers
    32:28 Thank You For Joining Us

    Takeaways:
    Workers’ Rights: 
    The UK's restrictive strike laws, particularly compared to international standards, undermine workers' bargaining power.
    This imbalance makes it harder for unions to negotiate fair wages, secure better working conditions.
    It also makes it harder to protect against unfair dismissal, ultimately leaving workers vulnerable to exploitation. 
    Inadequate Enforcement: 
    Despite the promise of a new Fair Work Agency, its limited powers and narrow focus raise serious doubts about its ability to protect workers. 
    Without the ability to prosecute employers or address a wider range of labour violations, the agency may struggle to prevent future mass dismissals and other abuses.
    This situation will leave workers reliant on lengthy and costly legal battles to defend their rights - without much confidence of adequate compensation should they win.
    Unions Blocked: 
    Although Labour's bill offers some positive changes, like simplifying ballot procedures, it falls short of addressing key obstacles to union organising and strike action. 
    Unions will still need to navigate complex legal hurdles and employer resistance to gain workplace access and effectively exercise their right to strike.
    This highlights the need for strategic planning and continued advocacy for stronger worker protections.

    Credits:
    The IER podcast is sponsored by Thompsons Solicitors.
    For Thompsons resources and advice on Trade Union law visit thompsonstradeunion.law
    This podcast is produced for IER by Creative Kin.
    To find out more, visit creativekin.co.uk/ier
    Recorded at Creative Kin's London studios.
    Studio Producer and Editor: Jason Caffrey
    Theme Music: Daniel Jorgensen
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    Does Labour's Employment Rights Bill Deliver on Sectoral Bargaining?

    10/01/2025 | 29 min
    "This is the first realistic chance we've had to revise the industrial relations structure of this country since Mrs. Thatcher came to power in 1979."
    - Lord John Hendy KC

    Will the Employment Rights Bill improve pay and conditions for British workers?
    Leading labour law experts Lord John Hendy KC and Prof. Keith Ewing address the absence of sectoral collective bargaining from the Labour government’s new Employment Rights Bill.
    These two industrial relations law heavyweights argue that the Bill leaves UK workers vulnerable to exploitation from companies hostile to collective agreements.
    "The minimum wage is the ceiling, and there's nothing above it."
    - Professor Keith Ewing
    They expound Britain’s historical sectoral bargaining arrangements, their evisceration under Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, and the urgent need to reinstate trade union powers to negotiate effectively across entire industries.
    Hosted by Institute of Employment Rights Director, James Harrison.

    Topics & Questions:
    Sectoral Bargaining: Why is it crucial for improving wages and working conditions?
    Legislative Limitations: Does the Bill adequately address the need for sectoral bargaining?
    Government Responsibility: Should the government take a more active role in promoting sectoral collective bargaining?

    Chapters:
    00:04 Welcome
    02:16 Sectoral Collective Bargaining: Why It Matters
    05:19 Britain's Low Collective Coverage
    06:50 Minsters Control Bargaining
    08:39 Stable Labour Costs And Higher Tax Revenues
    11:28 Now Or Never For Collective Bargaining
    14:16 US Vs European Model
    16:27 Successful Economies Use Sectoral Bargaining
    19:43 Recognition Procedures: A Fatal Weakness
    24:51 The Outlook for Terms And Conditions
    28:49 Thank You For Joining Us

    Takeaways:
    Sectoral collective bargaining is essential for achieving fair wages, better working conditions, and a more equitable society.
    The Employment Rights Bill misses a generational opportunity to strengthen workers' rights by failing to adequately support sectoral bargaining.
    Without reform, the UK risks continued wage stagnation and deteriorating working conditions.

    Credits:
    The IER podcast is sponsored by Thompsons Solicitors.
    For Thompsons resources and advice on Trade Union law visit thompsonstradeunion.law
    This podcast is produced for IER by Creative Kin.
    To find out more, visit creativekin.co.uk/ier
    Recorded at Creative Kin's London studios.
    Studio Producer and Editor: Jason Caffrey
    Theme Music: Daniel Jorgensen
  • The IER Podcast

    Fire and Rehire: Labour's Broken Promise?

    02/01/2025 | 30 min
    Unmasking the weaknesses in Labour's plan to tackle fire and rehire and zero-hours contracts.
    "This is not ending fire and rehire, this is facilitating fire and rehire." - Professor Keith Ewing
    In this episode of the Institute of Employment Rights podcast, we delve into the Labour Party's proposed Employment Rights Bill with labour law experts Professor Keith Ewing and Neil Todd.

    Topics discussed:
    Zero-hours contracts: Do the bill's provisions offer genuine job security and prevent exploitation for workers on these contracts?
    Fire and rehire: Does the bill truly ban this practice or does it inadvertently provide a roadmap for employers to continue using it?
    Loopholes and limitations: Ewing and Todd highlight potential weaknesses in the bill, including vague definitions, limited enforcement mechanisms, and a lack of compensation for workers who lose their jobs due to fire and rehire.
    International examples: The episode explores how other countries, like Australia, have successfully tackled fire and rehire and what lessons the UK can learn.
    The role of unions: The experts emphasize the need for stronger unions and greater worker involvement in decision-making processes to prevent exploitative practices.

    Key takeaways:
    While the Employment Rights Bill offers some positive steps, it falls short of providing comprehensive protection for workers.
    Stronger enforcement mechanisms, clearer definitions, and greater union involvement are crucial to ensure fair labour practices.
    The UK can learn from international examples to create a more robust and equitable legal framework for workers.

    Chapters:
    00:35 Welcome
    01:28 The Rise of Zero-Hours Contracts: A Backward Step for Workers
    12:05 Fire and Rehire: Lessons from the P&O Scandal
    18:33 Accountability and Remedy: Where the Bill falls short
    22:41 Employment Law Long View: Historical and International Perspectives
    29:19 Empowering Unions: The foundation of Workers' Rights Protection
    30:00 Thank You

    Credits:
    The IER podcast is sponsored by Thompsons Solicitors.
    For Thompsons resources and advice on Trade Union law visit thompsonstradeunion.law
    This podcast is produced for IER by Creative Kin.
    To find out more, visit creativekin.co.uk/ier
    Recorded at Creative Kin's London studios.
    Studio Producer and Editor: Jason Caffrey
    Theme Music: Daniel Jorgensen
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À propos de The IER Podcast
The IER is delighted to launch our new podcast. In this 6-part series, our labour law experts will be dissecting the new employment legislation brought forward by Sir Keir Starmer's Labour government.As many of our readers will know, the IER have been informing the debate on improving and strengthening labour laws for workers over the last 30 years. This body of work (undertaken on a voluntary basis by our labour law academics and lawyers) provided the blueprint for Labour's green paper on employment rights, New Deal for Workers document, their National Policy Forum document, and now their 'Making Work Pay' proposals, which are being brought to life by the Government's proposed Employment Rights Bill. Join us, as our experts consider how the proposals in the Bill measure up, and as we highlight the pitfalls and the possibilities the Bill may pose for the UK's 33 million workers.The IER Podcast is kindly supported by Thompsons Solicitors.
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