Blueprints

Smart contract risk never disappeared. In this episode, Hugh Karp, Founder of Nexus Mutual, breaks down why battle-tested protocols still fail, why institutions are embedding cover directly into vaults, and how DeFi coverage is evolving far beyond simple smart contract protection.

We discuss lessons from Terra and FTX, the rise of institutional capital in DeFi, leveraged liquidation cover, reinsurance-style second loss tranches, and why risk-adjusted returns are replacing reckless APY chasing. If DeFi wants to scale sustainably, underwriting and capital efficiency have to mature — and Nexus Mutual is building that risk layer for crypto.

Topics discussed in this episode:
(00:00) Introduction
(03:46) Balancer $100M Exploit
(08:21) Building on Public Blockchains
(10:59) DeFi Coverage Types
(14:29) Underwriting DeFi Risk
(19:13) Terra & FTX Survival
(24:48) Aave Insurance Model
(27:17) Crypto Insurance Evolution
(30:43) Symbiotic Partnership
(34:44) Capital Efficiency & New Assets
(39:35) Institutional Entry

This episode features guest Hugh Karp, Founder, Nexus Mutual https://x.com/HughKarp

Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth https://x.com/roth_edgar and is presented by Symbiotic:

- Website: https://symbiotic.fi/
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/officialsymbioticfi
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi

The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."

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Polygon co-founder Sandeep Nailwal breaks down why Ethereum lost its focus, why execution layers are winning, and why most L1s are fundamentally mispriced. He explains Polygon’s real strategy around payments, stablecoins, and fintech, why decentralization extremes don’t work, and how regulation, UX, and capital efficiency will decide the next phase of crypto adoption.

Topics discussed in this episode:
(03:45) Ethereum Was Too Expensive
(08:32) India Builds Despite Regulation
(15:05) Shared vs Dedicated Compute
(20:06) Ethereum Picked Wrong Battle
(26:45) Privacy Must Be Compliant
(30:10) L2 Valuations Are Broken

This episode features guest Sandeep Nailwal, Co-Founder & CEO, Polygon Foundation

Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth and is presented by Symbiotic:

- Website: Symbiotic
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@officialsymbioticfi
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi

The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."

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In this episode of Blueprints by Symbiotic, host Edgar Roth speaks with Raphaël Bloch, co-founder of The Big Whale, about what’s holding institutional crypto adoption back.

They unpack why institutions already understand DeFi, how weak transparency and media incentives undermine trust, and why risk management, insurance, and higher standards are now critical. The discussion also covers regulation in Europe and the US, tokenisation and stablecoins, and what needs to change for crypto to scale credibly into global finance.

Blueprints delivers unfiltered conversations with builders, analysts, and operators shaping the future of decentralised finance.—and this episode lays out the blueprint for how crypto earns trust at scale.

Topics discussed in this episode:
(09:51) Being Part of Major Crypto Media in France
(15:16) The Crypto Media Landscape & Where We Fit
(22:19) Where the Product Goes in 5–6 Years
(24:05) Crypto Media’s Role — and Its Dark Side
(29:30) What Drove Institutional Adoption
(34:31) Will Financial Regulations Change for Crypto
(40:30) How Institutions View DeFi Today
(44:10) Institutional Demand for Insurance
(50:20) Is Crypto Actually Changing Now

This episode features guest Raphaël Bloch, Co-Founder, The Big Whale

Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth and is presented by Symbiotic:

- Website: https://symbiotic.fi/
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/symbioticfiofficial
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi

The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."

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Philosopher and crypto academic Dr. Paul Dylan-Ennis of University College Dublin breaks down the myths, contradictions, and cultural battles shaping the crypto world. From the illusion of decentralization in DAOs to Ethereum’s “populist revolt,” Paul explains how governance really works—and why institutions could be crypto’s greatest threat. We dive into Bitcoin’s ongoing culture war, Ethereum’s shift toward pragmatism, and Solana’s rise as a Silicon Valley-inspired ecosystem. This is a deep look at crypto as a living, evolving subculture that still can’t accept it’s a subculture.

Topics discussed in this episode:
(00:00) Intro
(01:34) Rapid Fire Round
(03:14) From Academia to Crypto
(13:48) Why Crypto Isn’t Taken Seriously Yet
(24:58) The Institutional Adoption Question
(30:50) Can Ethereum Be Manipulated?
(36:39) Is On-Chain Governance an Illusion?
(46:50) Are TGE Models Actually Efficient?
(50:57) Ethereum’s Merge and Its New Identity
(1:03:07) The Cultural Divide in Crypto

This episode features guest Dr. Paul Dylan-Ennis, Lecturer, University College Dublin - School of Business, https://x.com/post_polar_

Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth https://x.com/roth_edgar and is presented by Symbiotic:

- Website: https://symbiotic.fi/
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/symbioticfiofficial
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi

The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."

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In this episode of Blueprints by Symbiotic, host Edgar Roth sits down with Mike Silagadze, co-founder and CEO of Ether.Fi, for a deep exploration into how one of DeFi’s fastest-growing companies is evolving into a full-fledged fintech powerhouse.

Mike shares the remarkable story of his transition from building and exiting the edtech giant Top Hat to starting fresh in crypto — driven not by money, but by purpose. He opens up about the moment he realized he didn’t need to work anymore, and why that freedom pushed him to build again — this time, to reimagine global banking on crypto rails.

This is a rare founder’s lens into the evolution of decentralized infrastructure, DeFi’s growing pains, and the next frontier — a global, non-custodial banking alternative built on Ethereum.
If you’re curious about the future of staking, fintech, and real product-market fit in Web3, this conversation is a must-listen.

Topics discussed in this episode:
(0:00) Introduction
(1:52) Rapid Fire with Mike Silagadze
(5:16) From Exit to Ether.Fi
(10:57) Liquid Staking Wars
(15:33) The Fintech Vision - Expansion
(17:20) Key to ether.fi's Growth
(24:10) Is restaking d3ad?
(29:59) Web3 Expansion
(46:23) Evolving Beliefs

This episode features guest Mike Silagadze, Co-founder and CEO at Ether.Fi, https://x.com/mikesilagadze

Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth, https://x.com/roth_edgar and is presented by Symbiotic:

- Website: https://symbiotic.fi/
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/symbioticfiofficial
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi

The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."

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