Mind the Machine

• Can AI Manifest the True Word of God?

  What does it truly mean to be human in an age of intelligent machines? Michael Arena, Dean of the Crowell School of Business at Biola University and former executive at AWS and General Motors, joins Cheryl Goodman to explore the intersection of faith, technology, and human dignity in the AI era.He shares his personal journey from the fast-paced world of Amazon to Christian higher education, how Biola is shaping future leaders to think ethically first, and why “building the humans that build AI” may be the most important mission of our time.Sponsor: https://Perseverance.acFollow Mind the Machine:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/Timestamps:00:00 Introduction — “We’re not just a set of outputs”00:23 Sponsor: Perseverance.ac00:41 Welcome and guest introduction: Dr. Michael Arena, Dean at Biola University01:34 Ethics-first approach to AI education03:17 From General Motors to AWS — Michael’s career journey04:06 How faith and human dynamics guided his transition to academia06:15 The meaning of being human in an AI-driven world08:19 Fear, dignity, and the pace of technological change09:54 Knowledge vs. wisdom — the essence of true learning12:02 Protecting the inner human experience14:04 Hearing God’s call and leaving Amazon17:11 Finding balance in a distracted, tech-driven world19:09 Teaching discernment and ethics to future AI leaders21:12 Stewardship, not advocacy, of technology22:28 Human skills that endure in the age of AI24:40 Building empathy and trust in fast-paced teams25:20 The power of ethical leadership in innovation26:07 Accountability, truth, and faith in AI systems29:18 Can AI ever truly understand the Word of God?30:23 Why Christians must engage with AI, not retreat from it33:07 AI’s dual nature — both dystopian and redemptive potential34:50 “We build the humans that build AI”36:14 What gives Dr. Arena hope about the future38:06 Biola’s AI Lab, Studio, and adaptive MBA39:22 Bringing industry leaders into the classroom40:57 Final reflections — shaping the future with ethics and grace

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• What the Next Wave of AI Innovation Really Looks Like

  In this episode of the Mind the Machine Podcast, we sit down with Michael Steep — former Senior VP of Xerox PARC and Founder of Stanford’s Disruptive Technology Program — to explore how to separate hype from reality in the fast-moving world of AI and emerging technology. Steep explains how the new Alliance for Societal Impact brings together family offices, startups, and universities to drive innovation that solves real human problems.We also discuss how family offices can complement or even replace traditional venture capital, why “builder capital” matters for long-term societal impact, and how San Diego is becoming a growing hub for innovation beyond Silicon Valley.Follow Mind the Machine:🌐 Website: https://findgood.tech/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcast🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcast💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/Timestamps:00:00 Sorting the hype from reality in AI00:28 Sponsor: Alliance for Societal Impact00:46 Guest intro — Michael Steep’s background at Microsoft, Xerox PARC, and Stanford02:15 The rise of exponential innovation03:13 Founding the Alliance for Societal Impact04:14 Family offices and their role in technology and social good05:27 Making innovation practical, not theoretical06:18 Creating lasting impact beyond conferences07:09 Preview of the March 2026 conference08:25 Connecting PhD researchers with next-gen investors09:10 San Diego’s startup ecosystem and AI opportunity10:28 Building bridges between regions and Silicon Valley11:25 Why corporate leaders don’t understand Silicon Valley12:00 Why San Diego offers a better cost structure and talent opportunity13:12 What a family office is and why startups should care14:09 How family offices differ from traditional VCs15:09 Education, funding, and alternatives to venture capital16:14 Cutting through AI hype to find real applications17:19 Partner introductions and expanded discussion18:33 Bob shares his “why” and the story behind Guitars Over Guns22:52 Lessons on resilience, education, and legacy23:40 The origins of his family office and long-term focus25:07 What makes family office capital different27:08 Spiritual capital and passion-driven founders28:23 Connecting innovators and investors for long-term impact29:18 The global stakes of AI and geopolitical sustainability30:56 Generational wealth transfer and the risk of lost legacy32:26 Academia’s role in innovation — from Stanford to MIT and Caltech34:31 Building cross-university collaboration for real-world results35:21 San Diego as a rising innovation hub37:02 Builder capital vs. venture capital38:13 The importance of trust and legacy in family office investing39:15 Lonnie shares insights from his books Beyond Business and Beyond Fortune41:00 How businesses can move from profit to purpose44:48 Level 1, 2, and 3 business frameworks for societal impact46:14 Why entrepreneurs must build more than money47:09 The two sides of AI: code creation vs. human impact48:57 Why trust and validation are key to ethical AI50:19 How entrepreneurs can lead with conviction52:26 Lonnie’s powerful closing story on legacy and gratitude55:29 Closing remarks

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• How Faith Can Lead in the Age of Artificial Intelligence

  In this episode of the Mind the Machine Podcast,, Cheryl Goodman sits down with Ali Llewellyn, former NASA leader, to explore one of the deepest questions of our time: how do faith and AI coexist?Together they unpack how artificial intelligence challenges spiritual identity, raises new moral questions, and redefines what it means to be human. Ali shares why she left NASA to pursue faith-driven innovation, how Gloo is building “flourishing AI,” and why the Church must engage in the AI era.Follow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/⸻Timestamps00:00 Introduction — cultural anxiety around AI and faith01:07 Guest intro: Allie Llewellyn, NASA to Gloo03:00 Why faith helps people navigate rapid change04:13 How AI differs from past innovations like the printing press05:42 AI and human identity: created in the image of God08:44 The moral danger of scale and moderation in technology10:13 Technology as transformation vs. transaction11:03 Can AI pray? What that question reveals about us13:22 Idolatry and the “killer app trap”15:30 Why demystifying AI matters — “It’s not magic, it’s math”17:51 Trust and truth in AI — the Church’s role in shaping it20:13 How faith communities are already using AI22:24 Can Scripture be represented accurately by AI?24:37 Open-source, private, and faith-aligned AI models26:27 Kingdom impact and values-aligned innovation28:06 Human flourishing and Gloo’s hackathon31:03 The era of “vibe coding” and collaborative creation33:34 Solopreneurship vs. community: the Church’s counter-culture36:01 Timeless truths, purpose, and human creativity38:00 Final reflections — no spectators in this movement39:20 Where to learn more

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• Why Bad Pricing Kills Great Products (with Marcos Rivera)

  How do you know if your pricing is right? Are you charging too little… or too much? In this episode of Mind the Machine Podcast, Cheryl sits down with Marcos Rivera, founder of Pricing I/O and author of Street Pricing, to explore the psychology behind pricing, confidence in your value, and how AI is reshaping business.Marcos shares timeless truths about pricing, why there’s no “magic number,” and how understanding customer psychology can unlock growth. From SaaS startups to established tech firms, his insights reveal how pricing connects directly to business survival and success.🔗 Learn more about Pricing I/O: https://www.pricingio.com/💼 Follow Marcos Rivera on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pricingio/Follow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/00:00 – Why pricing is about confidence, not fear of rejection01:06 – Introduction of Marcos Rivera, CEO of Pricing I/O02:00 – Stop guessing: pricing as growth and opportunity05:02 – Understanding when “no” is about price vs. positioning06:01 – Marcos’ journey from the Bronx to pricing expert08:37 – Making pricing simple and human—no “magic number”10:40 – The psychology of paying and why credit cards work11:48 – Marcos on AI: tool vs. hysteria14:36 – Why no pricing can save a bad product16:00 – Growing Pricing I/O and focusing on SaaS/tech companies18:16 – Teaching clients to “fish” with pricing skills19:39 – Timeless truths: business still runs on trust20:50 – AI agents, pricing structures, and building trust30:52 – The future of Pricing I/O and dream clients34:37 – Good vs. bad client fits for pricing work36:04 – Marcos’ book Street Pricing and timeless lessons

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• PR vs AI: How Communicators Stay Relevant in a Zero-Click World

  In this episode of Mind the Machine Podcast, we sit down with Julie Wright, president and founder of Wright On Communications, to discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping public relations. Julie explains the shift from traditional SEO to generative engine optimization (GEO), why “answer engines” are replacing search engines, and what this means for brands trying to be discovered online.She shares practical strategies for building visibility in an AI-driven world, the importance of credibility and trust, and how PR professionals can adapt to zero-click searches and AI summaries. We also explore broader issues of truth, trust, and journalism in the age of large language models, and what the future holds for young professionals entering the field.🔗 Learn more about Wright On Communications: https://wrightoncomm.com/💼 Follow Julie Wright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julieawrightFollow Mind the Machine Podcast:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindthemachinepodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mindthemachinepodcastWebsite: https://findgood.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findgood-tech/00:00 Introduction: PR, AI, and the rise of GEO01:11 Julie Wright on how AI is changing public relations02:29 From transactional marketing to relational AI visibility04:57 Generative Engine Optimization vs SEO07:22 Zero-click searches, earned media, and AI citations10:35 Answer engines, Perplexity, and Pro Rata AI13:26 Truth, trust, and the risks of manipulating AI17:09 Hallucinations, citations, and the limits of AI reliability20:55 Fear, anxiety, and the role of relationships in PR24:44 Building relational equity in the AI era27:37 White paper insights: how to influence LLMs30:59 Practical ways to raise visibility in AI platforms34:33 Press releases, syndication, and evolving PR tools39:55 Favorite tools, ChatGPT, and hopes for the future of AI at work43:24 Wrapping up: PR’s future and the state of the industry

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