28 épisodes
- Robbie Miles spent much of his career in sustainable investment, including running major sustainability funds at Allianz Global Investors. He eventually left finance to join the Live and Let Live Foundation, where his work now sits at the intersection of law, individual freedom and environmental protection.
In this episode, Robbie and Troy explore some big and occasionally uncomfortable questions about how humans relate to one another and the natural world.
They debate the role of regulation and private property in protecting nature, whether pollution can be approached as a violation of others’ rights, and where carbon markets fit within that thinking. Troy pushes the conversation further into the limits of individual freedom, our responsibilities toward other species, and whether human progress can continue without treating nature as expendable.
The discussion eventually moves beyond economics and law into agency, courage and spirituality: why people who care deeply about nature often struggle to express those beliefs within companies and institutions, and what might change if more people did.
https://liveandletlive.org/https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbie-miles/ - Many climate, agriculture, and development projects begin with strong science, committed funding, and good intentions.
Yet years later, practices are abandoned, participation fades, and the outcomes that once looked promising begin to unravel.
Why?
In this episode, Troy Carter sits down with Ina Walter and Corné de Louw to explore one of the most overlooked dimensions of permanence: people.
Drawing on decades of experience across carbon markets, regenerative agriculture, rural finance, coffee supply chains, and community development, Ina and Corné argue that lasting change depends on something many projects still underestimate: whether the people expected to sustain a system had any hand in shaping it.
The conversation explores:
Why participation and ownership are not the same thing
What carbon markets can learn from decades of development experience
How household dynamics influence project outcomes
Why trust matters as much as methodology
The tension between speed, scale, and meaningful engagement
How banks, funders, and project developers can build systems that endure
At the heart of the discussion is a simple but challenging question: Did the people expected to sustain the system have any hand in building it?
Whether you work in carbon markets, conservation, agriculture, climate finance, or systems change more broadly, this conversation offers a perspective that is often missing from discussions about scale, permanence, and impact.
🔗 Ina Walter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/inawalter/
🔗 Corné de Louw: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cornedelouw/
🎙️ The Earthshot Podcast - What if the biggest barrier to solving climate change isn’t technology — but the way we finance it?
In this conversation, Troy Carter sits down with Dr. Delton Chen, founder of the Global Carbon Reward, to explore a radically different approach to funding climate and ecological action at the scale the problem demands.
Delton’s idea starts with a simple observation: there is a massive global shortfall in climate finance. Projects struggle to get off the ground, and current market structures rely on fragmented standards, voluntary demand, and complex chains of intermediaries.
The Global Carbon Reward proposes something different — a system where:
Climate-positive actions are directly rewarded through a new financial asset (XCR)
Central banks act as guarantors of a long-term price floor
Private capital is mobilised by treating climate action as an investable, low-risk asset
Carbon is no longer traded for offsetting, but accounted for and retired at the point of impact
They go deep into:
Why the world faces a multi-trillion dollar climate finance gap
How current carbon markets compare to a reward-based system
The role central banks could play in stabilising long-term climate investment
Whether this kind of system can realistically emerge — and where it might begin
The deeper challenge: how to price and manage systemic risk to the Earth’s carbon cycle
This is a wide-ranging conversation that steps back from day-to-day project work and asks a more fundamental question:
If we were designing the system from scratch, how would we fund the transition to a stable climate?
🔗 Dr. Delton Chen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deltonchen/🌐 Global Carbon Reward: https://globalcarbonreward.org/
🎙️ Listen on Spotify / Watch on YouTube: The Earthshot Podcast - Greg Adams - CFO of Chestnut carbon (Greg's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-adams-0ba79a5/)
https://chestnutcarbon.com/
What does it actually take to finance nature at scale — not in theory, but in practice?
In this episode, Troy Carter speaks with Greg Adams, about what it took to turn large-scale reforestation in the U.S. into something banks, buyers, and long-term capital could support.
Greg walks through Chestnut’s journey from early land acquisition to signing long-term offtake agreements with Microsoft, and ultimately closing one of the most significant project finance deals the nature-based carbon market has seen to date. The conversation goes deep into why contract structure matters, why land ownership changes the risk profile, and how lessons from energy and infrastructure finance can be applied to forests.
They explore:
Why long-term offtake agreements are foundational for scaling nature projects
What made Chestnut’s reforestation projects bankable to major lenders
How quality, integrity, and cost discipline have to coexist
The role of registries and standards in building buyer confidence
Why carbon markets need fewer “snowflakes” and more common structure
How conservation can be both high-integrity and financially durable
This is a candid, practical conversation for developers, financiers, buyers, and anyone trying to understand what it will take for restoration and reforestation to move from pilot projects to real infrastructure. - In this episode, Troy Carter sits down with Anthony Stevens, who leads innovation across digital assets and financial markets at Northern Trust, to talk about the less-visible work that determines whether carbon markets can really grow up: the systems that make credits trackable, transferable, and trustworthy at institutional scale.
Anthony brings a capital-markets perspective to a practical question: what has to be true for large financial institutions to participate with confidence?
They explore:
What “trust” looks like in practice: custody, controls, auditability, and clean data
Where today’s carbon markets still create friction and risk
How registries, standards, and market participants can better align
What digital rails and tokenization can help with (and what they can’t)
What it would take for carbon markets to become stable enough for long-term capital
If you’re following the evolution of carbon markets, this one gets into the details that shape everything downstream.
🔗 Anthony Stevens: https://linkedin.com/in/anthony-stevens-933147/?skipRedirect=true
🌐 Northern Trust: https://www.northerntrust.com
🎙️ Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/_NxN6lxB9A8
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The Earthshot Podcast is a project of Earthshot Labs. Our mission is to restore and protect nature at planetary scale, using carbon markets to support financing to meet the scale of the challenge.
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