Orange Business Radio

Episode 23: Orange Business Next-Gen and the value of the Graduate Program
Our guest in this episode is Ricardo Laanen, who is one of the many "second generation employees" in Orange Business. We discuss what it is like to work in the same company as your dad, but more importantly about how the Orange Graduate Program has helped Ricardo to kickstart his career in Orange.

Guest:
Ricardo Laanen - Smart Industries | Orange Business | Orange Graduate ProgramRicardo's LinkedIn profile

Useful information:
Orange Graduate Program

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 22: Pi-cast! The Why Of Pi
In episode #2 of this podcast, we spoke with Michael Deheneffe and we briefly talked about his fascination for the number Pi. We suggested we may need a dedicated episode about Pi and here it is! This episode my not be for the faint of heart, but if you would like to understand more about Pi and how someone can become so fascinated, this one is for you!

Guest:
Michael Deheneffe - Director Marketing & Innovation at Orange Business Services, Digital & Data
Linkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeldeheneffe/

Useful information:
The Pi‑Search Page

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠⁠⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 21: Landing In The Uncanny Valley
This episode is recorded at Insights 2026, the yearly analyst event hosted by Orange Business. In this episode Francine shares with us a real-life experience on how AI can be used and how it made her feel uncomfortable. Together with Leslie Rosenberg, Research Vice President at IDC, we explore the uncanny valley of AI.

Guests:
Leslie Rosenberg, Research Vice President at IDC
⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 20: The Infinite Loop Of Insights
This episode is recorded at Insights 2026, the yearly analyst event hosted by Orange Business. In this episode we discuss the value Analyst Relations brings to an organization, the role of AI in analyst relations and the subtle difference between a feedback loop and an echo chamber.

Guests:
Catherine Freiberg, Head of IAR
⁠LinkedIn⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 19: Light, AI, Action!
Ai is changing the game in movies, music and art. But what does that mean for creativity? Will all actors soon be out of a job? Is art created by Ai even art - and who's the boss of defining that? In this episode we discuss the future of AI in the entertainment industry from the perspective of the audience and the people in the industry.

Guests:
Alaeddine Hajjem, AI enthusiast, photographer and much more.
LinkedIn
John Rinaldi, Actor, Singer, Voice Teacher/Coach, Piano Teacher.
Johns website

Useful links:
Sienna Rose, the mysterious singer
AI-generated art at SFO sparks backlash prompting artist to speak out

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.