Orange Business Radio

Episode 21: Landing In The Uncanny Valley
This episode is recorded at Insights 2026, the yearly analyst event hosted by Orange Business. In this episode Francine shares with us a real-life experience on how AI can be used and how it made her feel uncomfortable. Together with Leslie Rosenberg, Research Vice President at IDC, we explore the uncanny valley of AI.

Guests:
Leslie Rosenberg, Research Vice President at IDC
⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 20: The Infinite Loop Of Insights
This episode is recorded at Insights 2026, the yearly analyst event hosted by Orange Business. In this episode we discuss the value Analyst Relations brings to an organization, the role of AI in analyst relations and the subtle difference between a feedback loop and an echo chamber.

Guests:
Catherine Freiberg, Head of IAR
⁠LinkedIn⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 19: Light, AI, Action!
Ai is changing the game in movies, music and art. But what does that mean for creativity? Will all actors soon be out of a job? Is art created by Ai even art - and who's the boss of defining that? In this episode we discuss the future of AI in the entertainment industry from the perspective of the audience and the people in the industry.

Guests:
Alaeddine Hajjem, AI enthusiast, photographer and much more.
LinkedIn
John Rinaldi, Actor, Singer, Voice Teacher/Coach, Piano Teacher.
Johns website

Useful links:
Sienna Rose, the mysterious singer
AI-generated art at SFO sparks backlash prompting artist to speak out

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 18: What if work would be good for your mental health?
In this episode we talk with Petra Velzeboer about Digital Wellbeing, at work and at home. Petra is the author of two books on mental health and a Global Keynote and TEDx speaker. We discuss the impact of social media, AI and other digital tools on our daily lives and Petra provides valuable insights and some good tips
Guest:
Petra Velzeboer, Global Keynote and TEDx speaker, author of Begin With You and Digital Wellbeing

Useful links:
Petra's website with her books and lots more
Disrupting Wellbeing, Petra's own podcast.
The offline-club
Center For Humane Technology

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠⁠

Francine Linzell
"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her mom
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/

Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 17: Do we REALLY need all those datacenters?
In this episode we talk with Vlad Galabov about the ever growing demand for data center capacity worldwide. We talk about the impact of AI on that demand and how the data center providers are trying to address environmental challenges.
Guest:
Vlad Galabov, Senior Director Enterprise Infrastructure Research at ⁠Omdia⁠
⁠LinkedIn⁠

About the hosts:
Frank de Jong
Frank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠frank.dejong@orange.com⁠⁠

Kerem Arsal
Kerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator.
LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠kerem.arsal@omdia.com⁠⁠
Disclaimer:
This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.
Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.