Terrestrials

This Halloween, we’re going to the dark side. Deep in the darkest tropical forests, some of the world’s most elusive bats hang upside down in their winged sleeping bags. On a quest to find one of these flying mammals, Producerbud Ana ventures into a Puerto Rican forest and the back corridors of the American Museum of Natural History with Dr. Angelo Soto-Centeno. Why? Because while they may be scary and look kinda like Dracula, with their sharp fangs and beady eyes, these bats hold something crucial for humanity - the ability to repair entire ecosystems after some of the most destructive hurricanes ever.
Terrestrials was created by Lulu Miller with WNYC studios. This episode was produced and reported by Ana González with sound design by Mira Burt-Wintonick. Our Executive Producer is Sarah Sandbach. Our team also includes Alan Goffinski, Tanya Chawla and Joe Plourde. Factchecking was by Emily Krieger.
Special thanks to the American Museum of Natural History and Dr. Angelo Soto-Centeno.
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Our advisors for this show were Liza Demby, Ana Luz Porzecanski, Nicole Depalma and Carly Ciarrocchi.
Support for Terrestrials also comes from the Simons Foundation, the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations, and the John Templeton Foundation.



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It’s an epic humans-versus-birds showdown in this follow-up to last week’s crows episode! Ever since humans started farming, birds have been eating our crops. And for centuries, we’ve been trying to figure out how to frighten them away.
Science writer Mary Roach walks Lulu and Radiolab’s Latif Nasser through the long and surprising history of humans scaring away birds: scarecrows, fake owls, taxidermied hawks, robotic falcons, even animatronic bears with flashing eyes. But none of it works for long. The birds are too smart for our tricks. Until one day in Ohio, a wildlife researcher accidentally stumbled onto something that seemed to really freak out a roost of vultures.
The strange solution raises a bigger question about what fear really is, and why uncertainty and confusion might be the thing we fear most. Plus, we learn about the one bird that seems to know how to overcome this fear.
Attention Grown-ups! For more Mary Roach, join us for Radiolab Presents: Viscera, live in New York City on Thursday, November 5, with special guest Mary Roach discussing her upcoming book, Replaceable You: Adventures in Human Anatomy. Get your tickets at wnyc.org/events.
And be sure to check out Mary Roach’s books Fuzz and Stiff, and pre-order her upcoming book: Replaceable You: Adventures in Human Anatomy.
Terrestrials was created by Lulu Miller with WNYC studios. This episode was produced by Tanya Chawla with sound design and editing by Mira Burt-Wintonick. Sarah Sandbach is our Executive Producer. Our team also includes Ana González, Alan Goffinski, Natalia Ramirez, and Joe Plourde. Fact checking by Hilary Etkins.



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Spooky season is upon us and so we are bringing you a tale of Halloween’s eeriest avian mascot.
Emma Terry is friends with basically everyone in her town. She personifies a rainbow—she has bouncy blonde hair, sparkly cat-eye glasses, and a closet full of bright colors. But for the last decade, she's been trying to befriend the one creature that seems like the opposite of her vibe: the cemetery-lurking, ominous crow.
The more Emma observed and read about crows, the more their morbid reputation seemed… off. She learned crows drop nuts into crosswalks so car tires will crack them open, that they can recognize human faces, that they can use tools... She even heard a rumor that, sometimes, crows might leave gifts for humans who are nice to them.
So she started leaving treats for them in a basket outside her home, nearly every day, for seven years. Then one summer morning, she looked under the basket and saw something glinting. Crow scientist and ornithologist Dr. John Marzluff helps us figure out whether a friendship between a person and a bird is a real thing, or just a story we wish were true.
Special thanks to Emma Terry and Dr. John Marzluff. Check out Emma's art and ceramics at madebyemmapie.com. And if you want to help scientists study crows, download Crow Scientist, a free app made by John and Colleen Marzluff.
Check out some crows talking here!
Jimini Crowket Talking Crow [VIDEO]
Joe, the talking crow [VIDEO]
Joe, the talking crow pt 2 [VIDEO]
Crow saying hello, I know right after a human talks to it [VIDEO]
Crow saying "you alright love?" in Yorkshire accent [VIDEO]
Terrestrials was created by Lulu Miller with WNYC studios. This episode was produced by Tanya Chawla with sound design and editing by Mira Burt-Wintonick. Sarah Sandbach is our Executive Producer. Our team also includes Ana González, Alan Goffinski, Natalia Ramirez, and Joe Plourde. Fact checking by Sophie Samiee.

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As the leaves begin to change and the air cools, monarch butterflies disappear from our skies and journey …where? The mysterious migration of this iconic butterfly stumped scientists for decades. Until an intercepted message on a butterfly wing led them to the isolated mountains of central Mexico to find the ancient monarch oasis where these butterflies cluster by the millions. It’s here we meet Estela, who grew up around this extraordinary phenomenon and explains that the real mystery isn’t where the monarchs are going but, actually, how??
The answer involves poisonous-tasting caterpillars, supergenerations of buff butterflies, and a web of life that connects a whole continent. Plus, as many people prepare for their Day of the Dead celebrations, we learn how monarch butterflies are a symbol of connection to the ancestors living on in our memories.
Terrestrials was created by Lulu Miller with WNYC studios. This episode was produced by Ana González with sound design by Mira Burt-Wintonick. Sarah Sandbach is our Executive Producer. Our team also includes Alan Goffinski, Tanya Chawla, Natalia Ramirez, and Joe Plourde. Fact checking by Hilary Elkins.



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Today we bring you a story stranger than fiction. In 2006, paleobiologist Natalia Rybczynski took a helicopter to a remote Arctic island near the North Pole, spending her afternoons scavenging for ancient treasures on the ground. One day, she found something the size of a potato chip. Turns out, it was a three and a half million year old chunk of bone. SPOILER ALERT BELOW.
Keep reading if you’re okay with us spoiling the surprise.
It’s a camel! Yes, the one we thought only hung out in deserts. Originally from North America, the camel trotted around the globe and went from snow monster to desert superstar. We go on an evolutionary tour of the camel’s body and learn how the same adaptations that help a camel in a desert also helped it in the snow. Plus, Lulu even meets one in the flesh.
Special thanks to Latif Nasser for telling us this story. It was originally a TED Talk where he brought out a live camel on stage. Thank you also to Carly Mensch, Juliet Blake, Anna Bechtol, Stone Dow, Natalia Rybczynski and our camel man, Shayne Rigden. If you are in Wisconsin, you can go meet his camels at Rigden Ranch. And follow his delightful TikTok @rigdenranch to see camels in the snow!
Terrestrials was created by Lulu Miller with WNYC Studios. This episode was produced by Ana González, Alan Goffinski, Mira Burt-Wintonick, Joe Plourde, Lulu Miller, and Sarah Sandbach, with help from Tanya Chawla and Natalia Ramirez. Fact checking by Anna Pujol-Mazzini.
Our advisors this season are Ana Luz Porzecanski, Anil Lewis, Dominique Shabazz, and Liza Demby.
Support for Terrestrials also comes from the Simons Foundation, the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations, and the John Templeton Foundation.

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