Identity at the Center

• #383 - Navigating Identity and AI with IDPro at Authenticate 2025

  Live from Authenticate 2025, Jeff Steadman and Jim McDonald sit down with Dr. Tina Srivastava, an IDPro board member and co-founder of Badge Inc., for a crucial discussion on the rapidly evolving landscape of identity and authentication.Tina shares her insights on the conference, the evolution from physical hacks to sophisticated AI-driven threats like supercharged phishing, and the current challenges facing the industry. The conversation delves into the complexities of synced Passkeys, the critical vulnerability of account recovery processes, and the slow pace of regulation in keeping up with technology.As a board member for IDPro, Tina highlights the immense value of the practitioner-focused community, the supportive culture within its Slack channels, and makes an exciting announcement about the creation of new member-driven committees to shape the future of the organization. They explore the concept of the "AI arms race" and why identity professionals cannot afford to wait for the next big thing, emphasizing that collaboration and information sharing through communities like IDPro are essential to staying ahead of adversaries.Connect with Tina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tina-s-8291438a/Find out more about IDPro: https://www.idpro.org/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comChapters00:00 Introduction and Greetings00:16 Highlights from Authenticate 202501:39 FIDO Feud Rematch Discussion03:17 Guest Introduction: Tina Srivastava03:46 Conference Insights and AI Challenges06:16 Regulatory Environment and Passkeys09:11 Phishing and AI Supercharged Attacks12:28 QR Codes and Accessibility Issues13:09 The Importance of Phishing Resistant Authentication22:24 IDPro Community and Practitioner Support25:18 Community Support and Engagement26:26 IDPro's Role in Identity Events27:48 Future Directions for IDPro29:19 Introducing Committees in IDPro30:39 AI and Identity Verification37:07 The Importance of Information Sharing45:35 Public Speaking and Personal Growth50:58 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsKeywordsIDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Tina Srivastava, IDPro, Authenticate 2025, Passkeys, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Cybersecurity, Phishing, Deepfakes, Authentication, Account Recovery, Biometrics, Identity and Access Management, IAM, NIST, Regulation, Identity Verification, Synced Passkeys, FIDO Alliance

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• #382 - Sponsor Spotlight - HYPR

  This episode is sponsored by HYPR. Visit hypr.com/idac to learn more.In this episode from Authenticate 2025, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by Bojan Simic, Co-Founder and CEO of HYPR, for a sponsored discussion on the evolving landscape of identity and security.Bojan shares his journey from software engineer to cybersecurity leader and dives into the core mission of HYPR: providing fast, consistent, and secure identity controls that complement existing investments. The conversation explores the major themes from the conference, including the push for passkey adoption at scale and the challenge of securely authenticating AI agents.A key focus of the discussion is the concept of "Know Your Employee" (KYE) in a continuous manner, a critical strategy for today's remote and hybrid workforces. Bojan explains how the old paradigm of one-time verification is failing, especially in the face of sophisticated, AI-powered social engineering attacks like those used by Scattered Spider. They discuss the issue of "identity sprawl" across multiple IDPs and why consolidation isn't always the answer. Instead, Bojan advocates for a flexible, best-of-breed approach that provides a consistent authentication experience and leverages existing security tools.Connect with Bojan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bojansimic/Learn more about HYPR: https://www.hypr.com/idacConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.comChapter Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction at Authenticate 202500:23 - Sponsored Episode Welcome: Bojan Simic, CEO of HYPR01:11 - How Bojan Simic Got into Identity and Cybersecurity02:10 - The Elevator Pitch for HYPR04:03 - The Buzz at Authenticate 2025: Passkeys and Securing AI Agents05:29 - The Trend of Continuous "Know Your Employee" (KYE)07:33 - Is Your MFA Program Enough Anymore?09:44 - Hackers Don't Break In, They Log In: The Scattered Spider Threat11:19 - How AI is Scaling Social Engineering Attacks Globally13:08 - When a Breach Happens, Who's on the Hook? IT, Security, or HR?16:23 - What is the Right Solution for Identity Practitioners?17:05 - The Critical Role of Internal Marketing for Technology Adoption22:27 - The Problem with Identity Sprawl and the Fallacy of IDP Consolidation25:47 - When is it Time to Move On From Your Existing Identity Tools?28:16 - The Role of Document-Based Identity Verification in the Enterprise32:31 - What Makes HYPR's Approach Unique?35:33 - How Do You Measure the Success of an Identity Solution?36:39 - HYPR's Philosophy: Never Leave a User Stranded39:00 - Authentication as a Tier Zero, Always-On Capability40:05 - Is Identity Part of Your Disaster Recovery Plan?41:36 - From the Ring to the C-Suite: Bojan's Past as a Competitive Boxer47:03 - How to Learn More About HYPRKeywords:IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Bojan Simic, HYPR, Passkeys, Know Your Employee, KYE, Continuous Identity, Identity Verification, Authenticate 2025, Phishing Resistant, Social Engineering, Scattered Spider, AI Security, Identity Sprawl, Passwordless Authentication, FIDO, MFA, IDP Consolidation, Zero Trust, Cybersecurity, IAM, Identity and Access Management, Enterprise Security

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• #381 - Beyond Human: Taming the Wild West of Non-Human Identities with Steve Rennick

  In this episode, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by Steve Rennick, Senior Leader for IAM Architecture at Ciena, for a wide-ranging discussion on the most pressing topics in identity today.The conversation kicks off with a practical look at vendor demos, sharing best practices for cutting through the slideware and getting to the heart of a product's capabilities. From there, they dive deep into the complex world of Non-Human Identities (NHI). Steve shares his practitioner's perspective on why NHIs are such a hot topic, the challenges of managing them, and the risks they pose when left unchecked.The discussion covers:Why traditional IAM approaches fail for non-human identities.The importance of visibility and creating a standardized process for NHI creation.The debate around terminology: NHI vs. machine identity vs. service accounts.The reasons for NHI's current prominence, including threat actors shifting focus away from MFA-protected human accounts.Practical, actionable advice for getting a handle on legacy service accounts.The emerging challenge of IAM for AI and the complexities of managing agentic AI.The critical role of authorization and the future of policy-based access control.Whether you're struggling with service account sprawl, preparing for an AI-driven future, or just want to run more effective vendor demos, this episode is packed with valuable insights.Connect with Steve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-rennick/ARIA (Agent Relationship-Based Identity & Authorization) LinkedIn Post from Patrick Parker: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/patrickparker_ai-agent-authorization-activity-7335265428774031360-braE/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comCHAPTER TIMESTAMPS:00:00:10 - Introduction & The Art of the Vendor Demo00:08:02 - Steve Rennick's Take on Vendor Demos00:12:39 - Formal Introduction: Steve Rennick00:14:45 - Recapping the Identiverse Squabble Game Show00:17:22 - The Hot Topic of Non-Human Identities (NHI)00:22:22 - Is NHI a Joke or a Serious Framework?00:26:41 - The Controversy Around the Term "NHI"00:30:24 - How to Simplify NHI for Practitioners00:34:06 - First Steps for Getting a Handle on NHI00:37:20 - Can Active Directory Be a System of Record for NHI?00:45:08 - Why is NHI a Hot Topic Right Now?00:51:19 - The Challenge of Cleaning Up Legacy NHIs00:58:00 - IAM for AI: Managing a New Breed of Identity01:03:33 - The Future is Authorization01:06:22 - The Zero Standing Privilege Debate01:10:39 - Favorite Dinosaurs and OutroKEYWORDS:NHI, Non-Human Identity, Machine Identity, Service Accounts, Vendor Demos, IAM for AI, Agentic AI, Authorization, Zero Trust, Zero Standing Privilege, Secrets Management, IAM Strategy, Cybersecurity, Identity and Access Management, Steve Rennick, Ciena, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald

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• #380 - Unpacking Bias and AI in Identity Systems with Sebastian Rohr

  In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, Jim McDonald interviews Sebastian Rohr, the Chief Troublemaker at Umbrella Labs. They discuss the evolution of identity management, the challenges of digital identity, and the importance of national ID systems. Sebastian shares his personal journey into the identity field, the impact of digital identities on individuals, and the challenges faced in developing countries regarding identity verification. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in identity management, the importance of community in the identity space, and the cultural significance of German Unification Day.Connect with Sebastian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastianrohr/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comChapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction05:13 Sebastian's Origin Story in Identity11:00 The Evolution of Identity Verification15:24 Challenges in Identity Verification Technology20:13 The Importance of Birth Registration26:58 Real-World Stories from Identity Management32:30 Tips for Identity Practitioners35:22 Finding the Right Balance in Digital Transformation36:21 EUDI: The Future of Digital Identity40:02 Addressing Bias in Identity Systems44:11 The Impact of AI on Identity Management52:20 The Rise of Identity Beer: Community and Connection59:40 Celebrating German Unification DayKeywordsidentity, decentralized identity, digital identity, identity verification, national ID systems, AI in identity, identity management, global identity challenges, identity beer, German unification

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• #379 - The Strategic Importance of Identity Security in Enterprises with Eve Maler

  In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Eve Maler, founder and CEO of Venn Factory joins host Jim McDonald. They discuss the significance of identity in the corporate world; detailing Eve's new book aimed at educating CEOs on the importance of treating identity as a strategic asset rather than mere infrastructure. They explore concepts like the evolving role of identity in security, the increasing risks posed by AI and cybersecurity threats, and the potential for organizational paralysis without proper identity management. Eve emphasizes the need for cross-functional focus and strategic ownership of identity functions within companies. The episode concludes with insights into public speaking and preparation, providing listeners with practical advice and industry insights.Connect with Eve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evemaler/Chapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:32 The Story Behind 'Venn Factory'02:09 Eve Maler's Book for CEOs04:42 The Importance of Digital Identity10:53 AI and Its Impact on Executives17:25 Organizational Challenges in Identity Management23:49 The Role of Identity in Organizations24:44 Escaping Organizational Paralysis25:08 Valuing Identities in the Digital Age28:13 B2B Identity Dynamics35:21 The Rise of Identity Security42:32 Public Speaking Tips and Lighter NotesConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

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