What Fresh Hell: Parenting, Relationships, and Making Life Better, with Two Funny Moms
Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson

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- Why does it feel harder than ever to get together with our friends? Why does every "we should hang out soon!" in a group text feel destined to peter out before it actually happens?
In this episode, we explore the modern “friendship recession" that started during the pandemic and hasn't changed back.
We discuss:
the surprising finding that the quantity of one's friendships matters at least as much as the quality
how to set the bar for in-person gatherings a little lower
why having three old friends is good, but bringing new people in migh be even better
practical ways to build more connection into everyday life
Here are links to some of the resources mentioned in the episode:
Kathleen Walsh for The Cut: "I Should Be Allowed to Cold-Call My Friends”
Erica Pandey for Axios: Americans of all ages are spending less time socializing
Derek Thompson for The Atlantic: The Anti-Social Century
Russell Contreras for Axios: 15,000 churches could close this year amid religious shift in U.S.
Daniel A. Cox for Survey Center on American Life blog: Yes, Having More Friends is Better
Daniel A. Cox for Survey Center on American Life newsletter:
America’s “Friendship Recession” Is Weakening Civic Life
H.K. Collins, et. al. for the Proceedings of the Natural Academy of Sciences: Relational diversity in social portfolios predicts well-being
What Fresh Hell is co-hosted by Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables.
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices - This Deep Dive series is all about reducing the friction between ourselves and our kids when trying to communicate with them, whether it's yelling less, finding real reasons for constant defiance, or picking our battles.
SHOULD we yell at our kids? No. Do we? Yes. Some of us perhaps a little too often. Kids are hardwired to push our buttons to get attention, and none of us are saints. But while verbal abuse is definitely horrible, hollering “you are about to miss the bus again” is perhaps a little more forgivable—and fixable, as it turns out. And it is definitely better to yell less, not just because you’ll have a more peaceful home, but because the more yelling your household has in it, the more it is likely to have.
In this episode Amy and Margaret discuss:
Why yelling at your kids might not be as universally toxic as some headlines have claimed
Why yelling is, in the end, ineffective
Why finding workarounds for the sources of tension might be a more effective path to change than berating yourself for (once again) having raised your voice
Here are links to some of the resources mentioned in the episode:
Our Fresh Take with Carla Naumburg
Our Fresh Take with Emily Edlynn
Lisa Belkin for NYT: Can Yelling at Your Kids Be Good?
Sue Shellenbarger for WSJ: Talking to Your Kids After You Yell
Ming-Te Wang and Sarah Kenny in the Journal of the Society for Research in Child Development: Longitudinal Links Between Fathers’ and Mothers’ Harsh Verbal Discipline and Adolescents’ Conduct Problems and Depressive Symptoms
Dr. Emily Edlynn for Psychology Today: The Truth About Parents Who Yell at Kids
Stephen Marche for NYT: Why You Should Stop Yelling at Your Kids
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What Fresh Hell is co-hosted by Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices - What if being a comedian is kind of great for most things, but not so much for parenthood? We talk with Sona Movsesian, co-host of Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend and author of the new book THE WORLD'S WORST MOM, about mom guilt, the mental load, and what becoming a mother taught her about her relationship with her own mom.
We discuss:
why Sona calls herself the “World's Worst Mom”
the special fresh hell of twin boys
how you see your mom differently as soon as you become one
Here's where you can find Sona:
@sonamov on IG
Buy THE WORLD'S WORST MOM: https://bookshop.org/a/12099/9798217046706
Listen to the "Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend" podcast
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices - Youth sports used to mean riding your bike to your friend's house to play Wiffle ball in the backyard, with a tree for second base. Eventually you'd head to the rec center, maybe join the school team. But those days are long gone. Kids' sports have become so involved, specialized, and expensive that fewer and fewer kids are even able to participate— and those who do play have to opt in to grueling practice schedules and travel teams that prioritize achievement and winning above many of the lessons sports are supposed to teach kids in the first place.
Inspired by Caitlin Moscatello’s New York Magazine article “The Pay-to-Play Childhood,” we discuss how youth sports have shifted toward an increasingly expensive, competitive, and business-driven model, including:
Why travel teams and sports specialization have become the norm
The pressure parents feel to make their kids competitive at an early age
How the wealth gap informs youth sports and elite athletic teams
What parents and communities can do to make youth sports more accessible
Here are links to some of the resources mentioned in the episode:
Written Testimony of Katherine Van Dyck Before the U.S. House Committee on Education for a Hearing on “Benched: The Crisis in American Youth Sports and Its Cost to Our Future”
i9 Sports: Chances of Getting an Athletic Scholarship
Stephen Borelli for USA Today: Congress addresses 'crisis' in youth sports. Can we fix it?
Neglect of probability, defined
Ryan Huettel for These Football Times: US Soccer and the re-imagining of an elitist culture
Gabe Fernandez for SFGate: As youth sports costs soar, one Oakland neighborhood tries a creative solution
Reset as a sports parent: 5 ways to get (or keep) kids active
Our Fresh Take with Stuart Slavin on The Pressures Causing Depression, Anxiety, and Burnout in Our Kids
What Fresh Hell is co-hosted by Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables.
Protect your loved ones without spying on them. Go to https://heypolo.com/hell or use code HELL and get 70% off your first year!
We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website:
https://www.whatfreshhellpodcast.com/p/promo-codes/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices - This Deep Dive series is all about reducing the friction between ourselves and our kids when trying to communicate with them, whether it's yelling less, finding real reasons for constant defiance, or picking our battles.
We've all had times when our kids resist every. single. thing. you tell them to do. When is it part of a larger problem, and even if it's not, how do we manage the exhausting defiance?
Amy and Margaret discuss:
How to keep track of a kid's defiance in order to figure out where it's coming from
Gut-check questions to ask yourself to ascertain where ODD might be what's happening
the "two free requests" approach
Here are links to some of the resources mentioned in the episode:
Katherine Lee for VeryWell Family: Effective Ways to Handle Defiant Children
Royce Flippin for Additude: Why Is My Child So Angry and Defiant? An Overview of Oppositional Defiant Disorder
Dr. Douglas Riley: The Defiant Child: A Parent’s Guide to Oppositional Defiant Disorder
Mount Sinai Parenting Center: Positive Opposites
Protect your loved ones without spying on them. Go to https://heypolo.com/hell or use code HELL and get 70% off your first year!
We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website:
https://www.whatfreshhellpodcast.com/p/promo-codes/
What Fresh Hell is co-hosted by Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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À propos de What Fresh Hell: Parenting, Relationships, and Making Life Better, with Two Funny Moms
When you're a parent, every day brings a "fresh hell" to deal with. In other words, there's always something. Think of us as your funny mom friends who are here to remind you: you're not alone, and it won't always be this hard.
We're Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables, both busy moms of three kids, but with completely different parenting styles. Margaret is a laid-back to the max; Amy never met a spreadsheet or an organizational system she didn't like.
In each episode of "What Fresh Hell" we offer lots of laughs, but also practical advice, parenting strategies, and tips to empower you in your role as a mom. We explore self-help techniques, as well as ways to prioritize your own needs, combat stress, and despite the invisible workload we all deal with, find joy amidst the chaos of motherhood.
If you've ever wondered "why is my kid..." then one of us has probably been there, and we're here to tell you what we've learned along the way.
We unpack the behaviors and developmental stages of toddlers, tweens, and teenagers, providing insights into their actions and equipping you with effective parenting strategies.
We offer our best parenting tips and skills we've learned. We debate the techniques and studies that are everywhere for parents these days, and get to the bottom of what works best to raise happy, healthy, fairly well-behaved kids, while fostering a positive parent-child relationship.
If you're the default parent in your household, whether you're a busy mom juggling multiple pickups and dropoffs, or a first-time parent seeking guidance, this podcast is your trusted resource. Join our community of supportive mom friends laughing in the face of motherhood!
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