
AI, IP, and the Copyright Clash, with Kimberley Odums of IEEE
01/12/2025 | 59 min
How can AI shape AND be shaped by the law? In this episode of Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe welcome Kimberley Odums, Senior Counsel of Intellectual Property and AI at IEEE and founder of Lawyers Learn AI, to explore the intersection of legal innovation and artificial intelligence through a futuristic lens. Tune in to discover why over 250 copyright cases are reshaping AI development and what strategies lawyers need to stay ahead of rapidly evolving AI regulations. This conversation offers practical insights into the legal battles defining the future of AI and the legal profession.

Agents, ALSPs and the Future, with Mark Ross of Deloitte
03/11/2025 | 49 min
Are we going to see a new CXO in the boardroom - the Chief Contracting Officer? In this episode of Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe sit down with Mark Ross, Principal at Deloitte Legal Business Services, to explore the past, current, and future states of legal technology, from early e-discovery to agentic AI. Drawing from decades of experience, Mark shares valuable insights on measuring ROI for legal tech implementations, successful contract lifecycle management deployment strategies, and bold predictions about the future of legal departments. If you’re tasked with navigating digital transformation or a business leader interested in contract intelligence, this episode offers practical wisdom on embracing AI and gaining strategic value from legal operations. Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.

When AI is Exhilarating, with Brooks Hall
01/10/2025 | 36 min
Join hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe as they welcome Brooks Hall, Legal Operations Manager at Human Interest, to explore how legal departments can enthusiastically embrace AI without losing sight of governance and human oversight. From building trust in AI through gradual rollouts to hosting weekly “AI jam sessions” that make adoption fun and engaging, Brooks shares practical strategies for transforming in-house legal processes. Whatever your current stage of AI adoption, this episode delivers actionable guidance on implementing, scaling, and sustaining innovation within the legal department. Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.

The AI-Powered Paralegal, with Kristine Custodio Suero
01/9/2025 | 48 min
Join hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe as they explore the evolving role of paralegals in the age of AI with Kristine Suero, Senior Paralegal and Director of Business Development at Schechter Benefits Law Group. From debunking myths about AI replacing paralegals to sharing practical insights on ethical tech adoption, this episode offers a masterclass in future-proofing the paralegal profession. Whether you're a legal professional navigating new technologies or a paralegal looking to expand your career horizons, discover how to harness AI while maintaining the essential human elements of legal practice. Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.

The ROI of AI: Learnings from Customer Zero
01/8/2025 | 37 min
Before Workday bought Evisort, they were a customer achieving 35X ROI managing 100,000 contracts with AI. In this “special edition” of “Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast,” host Hal Marcus sits down with Greg Bennett and Kristi Johnson of Workday Global Legal Services to discuss what they learned from their experiences deploying contract AI and how Workday’s “Customer Zero” program is helping shape the future of legal technology. Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.



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