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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

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  • What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

    Artificial Intelligence, Very Real Debt

    07/08/2026 | 32 min
    Investments in—and among—artificial intelligence companies have pushed the S&P 500 to record highs. It’s also introduced a volatility to the markets that may be unprecedented. Is this growing pains or the wobble before the fall?

    Guest: Ed Elson, co-host of the Prof G Markets and First Time Founders podcasts.

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    Podcast production by Rob Gunther, Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.

    Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.

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  • What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

    Can We Trust the Jobs Report?

    31/07/2026 | 32 min
    The Bureau of Labor Statistics is a department for wonks, by wonks. But under the dual pressures of the changing nature of work—like the growing gig economy—and an administration that doesn’t accept bad news, should next week’s jobs report be taken with a grain of salt?

    Guest: Ben Casselman, chief economics correspondent for The New York Times.

    Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.

    Podcast production by Rob Gunther, Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.

    Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.
    Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our FAQ at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.
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  • What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

    Off-the-Record: Wait, You Ran THAT Boston Marathon?

    24/07/2026 | 6 min
    Why are kids getting faster? Is it the shoes? Also, running the Boston Marathon is obviously a huge accomplishment, but if you ran the 2013 Boston Marathon, you should lead with that and not save it for an interview years after you meet someone.

    Guest: Rob Gunther, producer for Slate’s What Next.

    This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.

    Podcast production by Rob Gunther, Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.

    Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.
    Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our FAQ at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
  • What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

    Trump’s Only Friend

    24/07/2026 | 24 min
    Steve Witkoff is a real estate investor, an attorney, and now America’s Special Envoy to the Middle East. It may seem like a weird career shift for Witkoff, but he’s such an outlier that the famously transactional Donald Trump treats him like an actual friend.

    Guest: Andrea Bernstein, investigative reporter and the co-host of four podcasts, including Trump Inc.

    Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.

    Podcast production by Rob Gunther, Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.

    Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.
    Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our FAQ at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
  • What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

    A.I. Vs. Eh, I’m Walkin’ ‘Ere!

    17/07/2026 | 4 min
    Ah, New York—where it’s hot, loud, and the air is barely breathable. So it’s not especially surprising that Governor Kathy Hochul is opting out of adding to all of that and announcing a moratorium on building new data centers in the state.

    Guest: Nitish Pahwa, Slate staff writer

    This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.

    Podcast production by Rob Gunther, Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.

    Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.
    Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our FAQ at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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