4 Guys Talking About AI

• $20B Search Deal in Trouble?! Apple Might Be Going Full AI

  Apple’s $20B search deal with Google is under fire — and Eddy Cue says we might not even need iPhones in 10 years. Meanwhile, Duolingo and Shopify are pushing hard into AI-first workplaces. What does this mean for the future of jobs, tech, and trust?In this episode of 4 Guys Talking About AI, we unpack the high-stakes courtroom drama where Apple’s Eddy Cue defends the company’s lucrative deal with Google — a deal that could soon be banned. Safari usage is declining, and Apple’s next big move might be a pivot toward proprietary AI, possibly with Nvidia as a partner. Is this the end of default search as we know it?We also take a hard look at how AI is transforming the workplace. Duolingo just laid off contractors whose roles AI can now do — and Shopify’s CEO wants managers to justify any new hire that isn’t AI-proof. But with only 25% of companies seeing ROI from AI, is the hype really paying off?Plus, what is “agentic commerce” and why are Visa, PayPal, and Mastercard racing to power it? And John lets an AI coach take over his week — hear how it actually helped him prioritize and focus in ways he didn’t expect.🔍 Topics covered:• Apple vs Google: The $20B Search Deal Fallout• Duolingo’s AI Layoffs & AI-First Workplace Culture• Shopify, Hiring, and AI ROI Woes• Agentic Commerce: The Future of Payments?• AI Coaches: Can They Actually Help You Prioritize Life?🔗 Sources & Further Reading:• Eddy Cue is fighting to save Apple’s $20 billion paycheck from Google – The Verge• Google’s Payments to Apple Reached $20 Billion in 2022 – Bloomberg (Archived) • Safari Search Sees First-Ever Decline – Fortune• Eddy Cue: “You May Not Need an iPhone 10 Years from Now” – The Verge• Only 25% of Execs Say AI Met ROI Expectations – Fortune / IBM Study • Visa, PayPal, Mastercard Bet on Agentic Commerce – PYMNTS🎧 Tune in to explore the shifting power dynamics in tech, the cultural evolution of work, and how AI agents might soon be managing more of your life than you think.----------🎙️ About the Podcast 4 Guys Talking About AI: Join four industry pros as they explore the latest breakthroughs in AI technology. Each episode delivers fresh insights, expert opinions, and in-depth discussions on the future of AI. Tune in on YouTube and in all your favorite audio-streaming platforms and stay ahead of the curve! 🚀🤖

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• AI Agents Are Taking Over the Web — Here’s What That Means

  What if your next shopping trip didn’t involve Google—or even you? 🛍️🤖AI agents are now browsing, comparing, and even buying products on your behalf—while quietly reshaping search, advertising, and the future of work as we know it.In this episode of 4 Guys Talking About AI (well, 3 this time!), we dig into the latest shakeups in tech and society—some exciting, some unsettling, and all game-changing.We unpack OpenAI’s new shopping results in ChatGPT and what it means for e-commerce, Google, and the future of search. Then we go deep on how AI agents are starting to interact with ads, the rise of SXO and Generative Search Optimization, and the implications for marketers and SEO pros.From Trump’s robot-powered manufacturing revival to the World Economic Forum’s predictions about AI’s impact on the workforce by 2025, we look at how automation is changing everything—again. Plus: OpenAI’s backpedal on “sycophantic” GPT-4o behavior, the emergence of “one-person unicorns,” and even AI’s role in exploring consciousness itself. 🤯Links to topics discussed:🛍️ OpenAI introduces shopping in ChatGPThttps://openai.com/chatgpt/search-product-discovery/🤖 Study: Are AI agents interacting with online ads?https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.07112🏭 Automation in Trump’s manufacturing pushhttps://www.axios.com/2025/04/30/trump-manufacturing-robots-jobs🧠 GPT-4o and AI sycophancy – OpenAI’s April 25 updatehttps://openai.com/blog/gpt-4o🎧 Plus: insights on Operator AI, AI-friendly HTML, zero-click search, and whether machines might just believe they’re conscious.#AI #ChatGPT #OpenAI #Automation #FutureOfWork #SEO #SXO #AIO #AIShopping #AIagents #GPT4o #ArtificialIntelligence #OnePersonUnicorns #Consciousness #TechPodcast----------🎙️ About the Podcast 4 Guys Talking About AI: Join four industry pros as they explore the latest breakthroughs in AI technology. Each episode delivers fresh insights, expert opinions, and in-depth discussions on the future of AI. Tune in on YouTube and in all your favorite audio-streaming platforms and stay ahead of the curve! 🚀🤖

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• Model Context Protocol, Robo Taxis, and AI Spam: The Next Phase of Automation is Here

  What happens when AI agents can navigate your entire software stack better than your team? Will robo taxis kill traditional public transit—or reinvent it? Is Google’s grip on Chrome about to break under OpenAI’s pressure? And why is Apple so quiet in the AI race? This episode of 4 Guys Talking About AI tackles the biggest shifts happening right now in tech, automation, and AI-driven business.From the rise of the Model Context Protocol (MCP) to AI-powered hyperlocal media, and autonomous fleets rolling into Los Angeles, we break down how AI is reshaping industries—from SaaS to search engines. We also explore OpenAI and Perplexity’s ambitions to disrupt the browser market and why Apple’s silence in AI might not be golden.🔍 Topics Covered:•MCP’s game-changing potential for SaaS, usage-based billing, and full B2B automation•Patch’s AI-powered leap from 1,100 to 30,000 communities•Volkswagen & Uber’s 2026 robo taxi fleet in LA ahead of the Olympics•OpenAI & Perplexity’s interest in acquiring Chrome amid Google antitrust pressure•Apple’s puzzling absence in AI leadership—and what they might do next🎧 Listen to the episode and join the conversation on how AI is transforming the world, one system at a time.📰 Articles Mentioned:•MCP Overview by Yoko Li (a16z)  •Patch scales to 30,000 U.S. communities with AI newsletters •Volkswagen & Uber to deploy robo taxis in LA by 2026 •OpenAI’s Model-to-Model tool calling cloud APIs•DOJ v. Google — browser wars and Chrome divestiture  •Perplexity’s AI-first browser ad model ----------🎙️ About the Podcast 4 Guys Talking About AI: Join four industry pros as they explore the latest breakthroughs in AI technology. Each episode delivers fresh insights, expert opinions, and in-depth discussions on the future of AI. Tune in on YouTube and in all your favorite audio-streaming platforms and stay ahead of the curve! 🚀🤖

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• AI Can Code. Now It Wants to Care. Should We Let It?

  Executives are embracing AI. Workers? Not so much. But what if emotional intelligence is the last edge we have over machines? And what do CEOs and everyday employees really think about AI in the workplace?This episode unpacks new survey data revealing a growing divide: leadership is eager to hand off decision-making to AI, while the rest of us are holding on to human judgment, emotional intelligence, and, well… common sense.We’re diving into the ethics of AI-generated therapy, the strange comfort of bots, the fear of being replaced, and the rise of a new economy—one where feelings are more valuable than ever.Oh, and Shopify’s CEO? He says the future might require you to prove your job can’t be done by AI. Cute.From rising distrust to surprising optimism, this episode explores how people really feel about AI in the workplace—and whether emotional intelligence might be our last competitive edge.🔍 Topics Discussed in This Episode:🇨🇳 Kling 2.0: China’s AI Video PowerhouseForget Sora—Kling 2.0 just raised the bar for AI video generation with jaw-dropping results.🔗 Tom’s Guide: Kling 2.0 vs. Sora🛒 Shopify CEO: Prove Your Job Can’t Be Done by AIA bold take on AI’s role in headcount decisions.🔗 Instagram Post (Shopify CEO)⚠️ Is OpenAI a Systemic Risk to Tech?Some warn that the company’s power could destabilize the entire tech industry.🔗 AP News: OpenAI Systemic Risk📈 ChatGPT Hits 1 Billion Users?OpenAI’s CEO says user growth is doubling fast—here’s what that means.🔗 Heygen: AI News Source🎧 Amazon Audible & AI Voice ClonesNarrators are being replaced. Is synthetic storytelling the future?🔗 The Verge: AI Narrators in Audible🧠 How People Are Really Using Gen AI in 2025Real-world stats and insights from Pew, Ipsos, and HBR.🔗 Ipsos: AI Usage & Data🖼️ ChatGPT’s Viral Reverse Image TrendUsers are reverse-engineering location data from photos.🔗 The Verge: ChatGPT Memory Upgrade & Trends📲 UK Forces Apple to Build a BackdoorA controversial government mandate with global privacy implications.🔗 Gizmodo: UK vs. Apple🔧 The Future of AI Tooling & AgentsA16Z breaks down MCP and the next wave of AI infrastructure.🔗 Andreessen Horowitz: MCP Deep Dive🔔 Subscribe for weekly deep dives on the evolving world of AI👍 Like this episode if you’ve ever argued with a chatbot💬----------🎙️ About the Podcast 4 Guys Talking About AI: Join four industry pros as they explore the latest breakthroughs in AI technology. Each episode delivers fresh insights, expert opinions, and in-depth discussions on the future of AI. Tune in on YouTube and in all your favorite audio-streaming platforms and stay ahead of the curve! 🚀🤖

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• AI vs. EI: Why Emotional Intelligence Might Be the Last Human Superpower

  What's the future of AI going to look like? In the 30th episode of 4 Guys Talking About AI, we're tackling the biggest questions and the latest news in the world of artificial intelligence.ChatGPT just onboarded a million users in an hour and locked in $40 billion in funding — but is emotional intelligence the real disruptor in AI? In this episode, we unpack Microsoft's strategy to differentiate on personality, the arms race of foundation models flooding the market, and Google's latest Gemini 2.5 drop that somehow got overshadowed by OpenAI’s victory lap.But here’s the twist: while AI continues to dominate headlines with speed and scale, we’re seeing signs of a human renaissance. From the rising value of empathy and communication skills to a world where no-code platforms flip the tech hierarchy, this might be the beginning of what we’re calling: “Revenge of the Humans.”Tune in for our take on the latest in AI!Key Topics in this Discussion:Microsoft's AI personality strategyChatGPT's user growth and funding newsGoogle's Gemini 2.5 capabilitiesMarket saturation of foundation modelsThe debate on the path to AGINo-code platforms and the changing value of expertiseTikTok acquisition updatesDive Deeper into the sources:Microsoft's AI StrategyOpenAI's Image GenerationOpenAI's FundingAI Business AdviceChatGPT's User MilestoneGoogle's Gemini UpdatesChatGPT's Studio Ghibli ImagesTheories of IntelligenceGenerative AI's Impact on ExpertiseTikTok Deal DevelopmentsHayao Miyazaki's thoughts on an artificial intelligenceYouTube channel credit source: Manhattan Project for a Nuclear-Free World Subscribe for more no-fluff conversations on the future of AI.👍 Like if you believe the human touch still matters.💬 Drop a comment: Is emotional intelligence our final advantage in an AI world?Available now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major platforms.----------🎙️ About the Podcast 4 Guys Talking About AI: Join four industry pros as they explore the latest breakthroughs in AI technology. Each episode delivers fresh insights, expert opinions, and in-depth discussions on the future of AI. Tune in on YouTube and in all your favorite audio-streaming platforms and stay ahead of the curve! 🚀🤖

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