In this episode of the James Loud Podcast, James sits down with Dale Sky Jones, Executive Director of Oaksterdam University, for a wide-ranging conversation on education, policy, innovation, and the future of plant-based industries worldwide. Dale has been a driving force behind Oaksterdam’s evolution into the most respected training institution in the space, helping thousands of students, operators, and professionals prepare for what’s next through real-world instruction and expert-led programs.James and Dale dive deep into how education is changing, why hands-on experience matters more than theory, and how Oaksterdam continues to lead by adapting its curriculum, technology, and delivery model to meet a rapidly shifting landscape. They also reflect on legacy, community, and why learning never stops—especially in industries shaped by regulation, science, and culture.This episode also highlights James Loud’s advanced breeding and cultivation courses, now available through Oaksterdam University. James breaks down what students can expect from his live and on-demand classes, why transparency and knowledge-sharing are critical, and how these programs are helping shape the next generation of growers, creators, and innovators around the world.Follow James Loud:Instagram: https://instagram.com/JamesLoudInstagram: http://instagram.com/jamesloudpodcast/Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/james-loudFollow Oaksterdam:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oaksterdamuniversity/Produced by Gears and GritInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gears.and.grit/About the James Loud Podcast:Hosted by award-winning breeder, author, and innovator James Loud, the show explores the art, science, and culture of modern plant genetics, sustainable cultivation, and community storytelling. Based in the San Francisco Bay Area, James brings decades of experience, creativity, and insight to every episode.In 2024, the show was honored as Podcast of the Year by the International Industry Awards for its commitment to education, storytelling, and innovation. Each week features voices from across the creative and agricultural worlds — all united by passion, authenticity, and craftsmanship.Join us on this award-winning journey as we explore the future of cultivation, creativity, and culture.