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Pinbag Shaw | 10 Percent True | EP83 Part 1
Thomas “Pinbag” Shaw flew the F-4E Phantom II at a pivotal moment in USAF history.
Commissioned during the draft era, he entered Tactical Air Command just as the Air Force was absorbing the hard lessons of Vietnam and rebuilding its fighter culture from the ground up.
In this first part of our conversation, Pinbag explains:
• Why the J79 smoked — and how crews worked around it
• What Red Baron reports actually taught young Phantom crews
• How Fighter Lead-In training at Holloman reshaped post-Vietnam tactics
• The reality of Sparrow employment before modern radar displays
• AIMVAL/ACEVAL and what it revealed about missile combat
• Combat Tree, radar geometry, and “hot” vs “cold” scope discipline
• Nuclear delivery training in the F-4E
• And how a loose ejection seat pin bag became a permanent callsign
We also explore the cultural side of 1970s Tactical Air Command — from Aggressor briefings to the infamous “vulnerability period” at the O-Club — and how the Air Force transitioned from the Vietnam experience into the F-15/F-16 era.
This episode is a deep dive into Phantom air-to-air tactics, radar intercept mechanics, and fighter culture in the years between Vietnam and the Eagle.
Part Two will take us operational — Korea, Germany, Victor Alert, and real-world air defence.
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0:00 Intro teaser – O-Club tale
2:32 Welcome Pinbag and episode outline
4:25 Matthew’s subscriber question – smoky J79s
8:03 Visual acquisition ranges
8:45 Pinbag’s background and route to the Phantom (nav school and dreamsheets)
23:30 Dual controls question
26:28 Back to Holloman and dreamsheets
35:00 Off to Holloman AFB
38:32 Uniform standards – TAC style
40:45 Mandatory formation – O-Club
43:10 The “Green Door”
45:15 Leaving Holloman
46:17 Osan → Hahn → Nellis → Clark → Taegu → Lakenheath (after staff job)
49:25 Learning from Red Baron reports (classified material?)
51:25 TAC rules, callsigns, naming ceremonies, and the Doofer Book
53:20 “Opinions are like assholes…”
55:00 Fridays at the O-Club – bell rules and intro story
1:01:00 McDill for the F-4 RTU – O-Club and games
1:07:43 F-4 “of the day” – equipment fit, avionics, etc.
1:15:01 Combat Tree
1:21:20 Back to the RTU and a callsign story
1:26:02 Through the training phases
1:29:49 Back to day one
1:36:32 Why the air-to-air preference?
1:44:50 Navy terminology – tough for WSOs
1:48:28 Nuclear strike?
1:50:15 What was going on in TAC
1:58:04 Pave Spike
2:00:20 USAFE realignment, Ready Eagle, and DOC taskings
2:06:30 Sparrow developments