Nobody Should Believe Me

John Stewart is arrested shortly after Knowellan’s death, but despite what appears to be strong evidence of abuse, the case against John is never taken to court. Andrea traces how we ended up here, ten years later, with no one held accountable for taking the life of a child.

Featuring Experts:

Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

Mike Weber, Former Crimes Against Children Detective

Dr. Cathy Ayoub, Nurse Practitioner and Professor of Psychology at Harvard

Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney

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On Easter Sunday in 1993, the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville erupted into chaos. Tensions between prisoners and staff had reached a breaking point, sparking one of the longest prison sieges in U.S. history. Over eleven days, nine inmates and one corrections officer would lose their lives. But what caused the riot? And for the hundreds trapped inside, what did it mean to survive it? Today’s episode kicks off a month-long exploration of the Lucasville uprising. An event that put all eyes on Ohio, and left one man reeling in its wake.

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Investigators work to reconstruct Knowellan Kelly’s final hours in the care of John Stewart and his grandfather. John claims there is exculpatory evidence that proves he didn’t hurt Knowellen, but is that really the story the evidence tells? 

Featuring:

Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner

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After 15-month old Knowellan Kelly is rushed to the hospital following a seizure, doctors discover catastrophic injuries. Andrea walks through the medical evidence with experts whose findings point to repeated inflicted trauma. As investigators struggle to reconcile conflicting accounts from John Stewart and Knowellan’s mother and grandfather, a tangled web emerges. 

Featuring:

Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner

Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney

Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician

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After John Stewart, a Florida man charged with–but never prosecuted for–the death of his girlfriend's 15-month old son reaches out to Andrea to tell her she’s all wrong about his case Andrea goes on a deep dive to find out what really happened to Knowellan Kelly, the baby who lost his life ten years ago. John–who was featured in Take Care of Maya–claims that doctors and investigators falsely accused him: but the truth turns out to be much more complicated. 

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