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Was Alexander Hamilton the real architect of American capitalism — or just the most self-destructive genius in the room? What does it mean that the man who shaped the nation's finances spent his career surrounded by an economy built on enslaved labour he understood firsthand? And, if the founding fathers were so brilliant, why is America still fighting about what they actually built?
Peter and Afua peel back the marble on two of the most mythologised men in history: Hamilton, the penniless Caribbean immigrant who survived a hurricane, built the American financial machine, and then blew up his own career with a 95-page confession; and Washington, the slave-owning Virginia planter who became the face of liberty — and knew exactly when to put the power down.

0:00 Hamilton, Washington, and the show that won't let the founders off the hook
1:48 The Caribbean origins of Alexander Hamilton — and what Nevis reveals about colonial violence
5:30 How working at the epicentre of the Atlantic slave economy shaped Hamilton's political thinking
9:10 The outsider who doubled down: Hamilton's ambition, his tongue, and why people feared him
11:36 The Reynolds affair — confessing adultery to defeat a corruption charge
15:50 What Hamilton brought to the revolution that none of the others could
20:10 George Washington: the Virginia planter who had to learn how to be a gentleman
24:00 How marrying Martha Custis transformed Washington's wealth and status overnight
26:40 The land grab Britain tried to block — and why it radicalized Washington
30:30 The fragile coalition: Franklin's joke, the hanging rope, and what really held them together
35:00 Washington's genius was knowing what not to do — and when to walk away
38:40 The American dream was built on free labour — and the dishonesty that disguised it

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Who was the boring lawyer who quietly built the machine that made America work? Was John Adams so relentlessly right that even his allies couldn't stand him? And, how did the man who wrote the most beautiful words on human equality spend decades owning the woman who bore his children?
Peter and Afua tear into the contradictions of 1776 — the forgotten architect, the honest man nobody liked, and the wordsmith whose legacy history has never quite known what to do with.

0:00 The original Brexit: what 1776 really was
6:00 John Jay — the unsung hero who built the legal framework of a nation
11:00 The Federalist Papers and the Roman Republic obsession
14:00 Jay's reluctant revolution: the man who wanted reconciliation
16:00 Enter Thomas Jefferson: plantation privilege and the Declaration of Independence
18:30 Jefferson at his desk — and the enslaved people outside the window
21:00 Martha, Sally Hemings, and the relationship history tried to bury
25:00 John Adams: the honest man too competent for his own good
31:00 Rome's collapse, checks and balances, and why they feared what they were building
36:00 Jefferson gave the revolution its language, Jay its structure, Adams its urgency

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What turned America's most famous British loyalist into its most dangerous revolutionary? What does a public humiliation in a Whitehall chamber have to do with the Declaration of Independence? And, if the man who designed the American constitution believed men were angels, would he have bothered?
Peter and Afua trace how a candle-maker's son who pulled lightning from the sky and a sickly scholar obsessed with the fall of Rome built the architecture of the most powerful republic in history.

0:00 Franklin: the 18th century's global multimedia superstar
6:10 Poor Richard's Almanac and the art of building a platform from scratch
9:45 From kite and key to the Royal Society — Franklin's lightning moment
13:20 A proud Briton in London: the comfortable life that couldn't last
16:00 The Hutchinson letters, a Whitehall ambush, and an hour of public savaging
18:30 The moment Franklin stopped thinking of himself as British
21:00 Enter James Madison: the smallest man in public life and the biggest thinker
24:30 Two thousand years of history as a laboratory of political failure
28:00 Taxation without representation, the Intolerable Acts, and the radicalisation of Madison
31:30 'If men were angels, no government would be necessary'

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How did a collection of desperate survivors, religious outcasts, and petty criminals become the architects of the world's most powerful nation? What does it mean to build a society on the language of liberty when that society is entirely dependent on enslaved labour? And are Americans still reckoning with a founding story that was never quite what it seemed?

Peter and Afua go back to the very beginning — from the disaster of Roanoke and the brutal early years at Jamestown, to the transatlantic slave economy that quietly powered the rise of New York, Boston, and Philadelphia.

00:00 Introduction — what America actually means
03:00 Roanoke and Jamestown — England's catastrophic first attempts
08:00 The colonial economy — slavery, sugar, and the triangle trade
14:00 New York's hidden history — one in five New Yorkers were enslaved
19:00 The contradiction at America's heart — liberty built on unfreedom
25:00 Who were the Founding Fathers — and who was left out?
32:00 Preview — Franklin and Madison up next

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How does a Siberian peasant mystic end up controlling the most powerful empire in Europe? Could the rumours that destroyed a dynasty have been entirely false — and did they matter anyway? And, without Rasputin, would there have been no Lenin — and would the 20th century have looked completely different? Peter sits down with Sir Antony Beevor — bestselling author of Stalingrad, Berlin, and D-Day — to dig into his new book on one of history's most mythologised figures: Grigori Rasputin, the Siberian wanderer who charmed the Tsarina, antagonised everyone else, and whose murder was so catastrophically bungled it reads like black farce.

0:00 From Siberia to the Imperial court — how a peasant mystic reached the centre of power
5:30 Holy fools, wandering pilgrims, and why Russia was always fertile ground for figures like Rasputin
10:00 The voice, the eyes, and the seduction: how Rasputin actually worked on people
13:00 The Tsarina's obsession — and why Antony Beevor is certain the rumours were fake news
17:30 How Rasputin's ministerial choices set the railways on fire and sparked a revolution
24:00 Rasputin was right about the war — and then made everything worse anyway
27:30 The assassination: poisoned cakes, Yankee Doodle, and a murder plot of spectacular incompetence
32:00 Putin, Nicholas II, and why historians should be wary of historical parallels
36:00 Without Rasputin, no Lenin? The counterfactuals Antony loves but won't fully follow

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