Two Guys on a Plane

We’re taking a closer look at the current state of the aviation industry. This is our time to talk about the realities, empathize with each other, and discuss what’s really going on in aviation right now.

We’re so excited to have labor leader Sara Nelson in the studio with us this week. Sara is the International President of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, AFL-CIO and was called “America’s most powerful flight attendant” by The New York Times. She is currently leading over 55,000 aviation first responders in 20 airlines all over the United States. Her relentlessness and willpower make her an icon for all of us.

We get into the shutdown of Spirit Airlines and what it means for thousands of workers, the situation involving ICE and flight attendant Enzo Thompson, the continued strain on our Air Traffic Control system, government shutdowns, recent aviation incidents, and the bigger question so many crew members are asking: should we be worried about where the airline industry is headed?
Sara also shares her perspective on what flight attendants should be paying attention to, what we can actually do, and why having a strong collective voice matters SO much right now.

Solidarity forever!

Chapters:
[0:00] Welcome to Episode #49!
[1:37] Sara Nelson on labor movements
[5:11] The amazing letter carriers union 
[6:18] Working people have to fight back
[7:34] Our air traffic controllers
[12:19] The BIG issue 
[16:49] Everything is political
[19:58] Are flight attendants safe?
[25:44] Yes, flight attendants want unions
[31:35] Let’s talk about Spirit Airlines
[35:44] Unions support and protect flight attendants
[38:57] We love Spirit flight attendants! 
[44:45] Should we be concerned?
[49:30] At the forefront of people's rights
[51:25] Using power for the greater benefit
[56:46] Flight attendants are first responders
[1:00:16] Flight attendants represent
[1:01:43] Sara Nelson has high hopes
[1:05:56] The magic of flying
[1:09:25] Let’s play Cross-checked!

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People have so many common misconceptions about us, flight attendants, and the aviation industry.

Being a flight attendant is all about ensuring every passenger is safe and comfortable on board. While we enjoy great flight perks and benefits, our schedules can be incredibly tricky to manage. In this episode, we’re breaking down the 15 common misconceptions people have about flight attendants and what our routine actually looks like.

Is being a flight attendant an easy job? Let’s laugh and talk about it!

Episode Highlights:
[0:00] Welcome to Episode #48!
[1:19] Drew: it’s fineee, I guess
[2:05] Rich & that intense encounter
[6:03] Misconception#1 - Just to serve drinks?
[8:46] Misconception#2 - Connecting flights attendant
[12:21] Misconception#3 - Flight attendants are smart and valuable
[14:55] Misconception#4 - No upgrades
[19:00] Misconception#5 - We can only assist you
[23:41] Misconception#6 - Flight attendant rates
[26:40] Misconception#7 - A regular route
[30:22] Misconception#8 - Flight attendants have unpredictable schedules
[32:29] Misconception#9 - Flying free-ish
[35:16] Misconception#10 - The accommodations we stay in
[37:29] Misconception#11 - Explore every city in 10 hours
[40:09] Misconception#12 - We know each other
[42:27] Misconception#13 - Dating in the industry
[45:36] Misconception#14 -  Are we never home?
[47:49] Misconception#15 - This is probably not an easy job
[49:58] Galley Gossip 
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We have been on countless flights where passengers can’t seem to find anything…including the menu in their seatback pocket.

While we love helping out in any way possible, we always advise looking around your seat or checking the signage before asking. In this episode, we’re talking about where the menu is hiding and the “passenger overwhelm” with all the signs, announcements, and in almost everything onboard.

Next time you are on a flight, don’t forget to check  your seatback pocket!

Episode Highlights:
[0:00] Welcome to Episode #47!
[1:17] There’s a menu in the seatback pocket?
[2:18] Before we judge…
[3:23] Maybe it’s just sensory overload
[6:41] Just take a moment to look around
[8:04] Rich trusts passengers will figure things out
[9:14] Menu overwhelm, so they picked water
[11:06] So many things to look at!
[12:31] You are allowed to ask (we approve!)
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We’ve seen some unpopular travel opinions on social media lately. Let’s talk about them and laugh about how some on this list can make us go uhh…

While travel opinions might help us become better and more prepared travelers, they might not be the best pieces of advice to share. Ask someone reliable—and of course, listen to our podcast where we share fun and practical travel advice on all things aviation-related. In this episode, we’ll comment on the 13 travel opinions shared with us by our followers!

Join the conversation on Threads!

Episode Highlights:
[0:00] Welcome to Episode #46!
[1:19] Rich survived a nightmare week
[6:32] Drew, an emo week, and wigs
[9:17] No one knows how to form a line!
[12:07] Unpopular opinion #1 - Take a course before booking a ticket
[13:37] Unpopular opinion #2 - Do we get what we paid for?
[16:12] Unpopular opinion #3 - First class
[16:42] Unpopular opinion #4 - Every airline is different
[18:19] Unpopular opinion #5 - Is boarding early a flex?
[20:12] Unpopular opinion #6 - Super early people in the airport
[21:33] Unpopular opinion #7 - Going with the flow is okay
[24:02] Unpopular opinion #8 - Don’t expect strangers  to switch seats for you
[25:20] Unpopular opinion #9 - Baggage weight limit
[26:03] Unpopular opinion #10 - The window seat
[26:53] Unpopular opinion #11 - Drinking airplane coffee  
[28:17] Unpopular opinion #12 - You don’t need to pack that much
[29:17] Underpacked for a cruise experience
[31:25] Unpopular opinion #13 - Clapping is wholesome
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Oh, the seatbelt sign is on. What should I do?

Well, first, you can stay seated and listen to us flight attendants! We can’t predict turbulence, but we can ensure your safety onboard. In this episode, let’s talk about turbulence and why you should stay buckled in-flight.

If you can stay buckled on an hour-long car ride, why can’t you on an airplane? Right?

Episode Highlights:
[0:00] Welcome to Episode #45!
[1:12] Why stay buckled?
[2:10] Drew & wild turbulence
[3:48] We just can’t predict it
[4:52] You buckle up in a car, why not on the plane?
[5:37] Drew’s two school of thoughts
[7:40] Don’t ask if you’re going to do it anyway
[9:22] Just stay seated, Ma’am

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