That Was Us

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 16: “The Adirondacks,” with special guest Chris Geere AKA Phillip! What begins as Kevin and Madison’s wedding day quickly becomes one of the most emotional turning points of the series, as long-buried fears, hard truths, and questions about what love really means come to the surface. As some relationships move forward, others are forced to confront whether love alone is enough.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:
* The realities of co-parenting and finding a path forward after a relationship changes
* The shocking flash-forward that reveals Kate’s future husband
* And a special interview with Chris Geere, who joins the podcast to discuss playing Phillip, navigating fan reactions, joining This Is Us during COVID, and learning that his character would eventually change the course of Kate’s story

They also break down the episode, including:

* Madison’s childhood flashbacks and the experiences that shaped her self-worth

* Madison asking Kevin the question he can’t answer: “Are you in love with me?”

* Toby accepting a job that will take him away from home several days a week

* Phillip refusing Kate’s resignation and encouraging her to continue pursuing her passion for teaching

* Deja learning about Malik’s college acceptances—including Harvard—and what it could mean for their future

* Beth helping Tess alter her bridesmaid dress so she can feel more comfortable being herself

* Rebecca finally apologizing to Randall for keeping his birth parents from him

* Rebecca asking Kevin to build the house Jack always dreamed of building for the family

* The unforgettable final flash-forward revealing Kate and Phillip’s wedding, Randall’s rising political future, and the next chapter for the Pearson family

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

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This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 15: “Jerry 2.0.” As Kevin heads to the cabin for his bachelor party, old relationships, future plans, and big questions about love come bubbling to the surface. From rom-com fantasies to real-life commitments, the episode explores what happens when the life you imagined doesn’t quite match the life you’re living…and whether love is enough to bridge the gap.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* Long-distance relationships and the difficult balance between career ambitions and romantic love

* Whether grand romantic gestures are truly romantic—or sometimes a form of love bombing

* The pressure modern relationships place on partners to be everything to each other

* Marriage, divorce, and the uncertainty of knowing whether you’re choosing the right person

* Why some relationships can end without being considered failures

They also break down the episode, including:

* Kevin’s Jerry Maguire-inspired mission statement and the future he envisioned with Sophie

* Sophie’s unexpected phone call and Kevin’s emotional decision to finally let go of the past

* Nicky declaring Kevin “Jerry Maguire 2.0” and forcing him to confront his doubts about marrying Madison

* Toby’s confession about the pressure he feels after losing his job and the San Francisco opportunity that could change everything

* Madison’s hilarious bachelorette party, complete with Kevin masks, ghosting stories, and a very awkward surprise guest

* The newlywed game that exposes how differently Kevin and Madison envision their future

* Beth confiding in Rebecca about her fears of returning to the professional dance world

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

About Headgum:
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This week on That Was Us, we’re joined in studio by Faithe Herman, who grew up before our eyes as Annie Pearson on This Is Us. Joining the series at just eight years old and wrapping at fourteen, Faithe reflects on what it was like to spend her childhood on one of television’s most beloved family dramas, and how the cast became a second family along the way.

In this episode, Faithe chats about:

• Booking This Is Us as her very first TV pilot audition and the unforgettable callback process

• Growing up alongside Eris Baker and Lyric Ross and how their on-screen sibling bond became a real-life friendship

• What it was like working with Sterling K. Brown and Susan Kelechi Watson as her TV parents for six seasons

• Annie Pearson’s evolution from the quiet observer of the family to one of the show's most emotionally insightful characters

• The memorable scene with Ron Cephas Jones and why it helped her see Annie in a new way

• Learning the craft of acting as she got older and discovering a genuine passion for performance

• The emotional party popper scene and the lesson Sterling taught her afterward

• Expanding her career beyond This Is Us with projects like Shazam! and Watchmen

• Making the long commute from San Diego to Los Angeles

• Attending the SAG Awards as a kid and navigating growing up in the spotlight

• Sterling’s efforts to make sure Annie remained part of the show’s final chapter and why Annie’s appearance on the train meant so much

• Starting college, turning eighteen, and finding balance between school, adulthood, and her acting career

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

About Headgum:

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com.

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 14: "The Music and the Mirror." As Beth questions her future after the collapse of her dance studio, Kate searches for purpose and confidence, Kevin reflects on the life he’s building with Madison, and Toby struggles with feeling lost after losing his job.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* Chris’s journey from competitive tennis to pickleball

* Mandy’s evolving relationship with music and finding her way back to singing

* Parenting, communication, and helping kids navigate big emotions and boundaries

* Beth’s emotional journey as her dance studio struggles through the pandemic

* Randall learning that sometimes support means showing up rather than fixing the problem

* Kevin’s disastrous movie screening and growing doubts about his future with Madison

* Rebecca and Kate’s emotional reconciliation and the healing of old wounds

* Toby’s struggle with unemployment, pride, and asking for help

They’re also joined by Abby Romeo and her mother Christine, from Love on the Spectrum, to discuss:

* How This Is Us helped them better understand one another

* Abby’s experience as a Gestalt thinker and why the show's flashback structure resonates with her

* The importance of openness and representation when talking about autism

* Abby’s songwriting process and how music helps her process her experiences

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

About Headgum:

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com.

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This week on That Was Us, we’re trying something a little different. Inspired by the heart of This Is Us and where we currently are in the rewatch with Kevin and Randall’s reconciliation, the hosts kick off a brand new “Group Chat” format centered around one big theme: siblings! From birth order and family roles to rivalry, resentment, and deep love, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris open up about their own sibling dynamics and the ways those relationships continue to shape who they are today.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* Their own sibling dynamics, age gaps, and the roles they played growing up

* How birth order can shape personality, ambition, and family identity

* Why siblings raised in the same household often feel like they had completely different parents

* The ways Kevin, Kate, and Randall mirror real-life sibling dynamics and coping mechanisms

* How trauma and major life events can permanently shape sibling relationships

* Caring for aging parents and how siblings divide emotional and logistical responsibilities

* Why the sibling who moves away often experiences family differently

* The lasting impact of family roles well into adulthood

* Whether siblings naturally grow closer with age—or drift apart

* “Hot takes” about siblings, including parent favorites, youngest-child privilege, and whether siblings are built-in best friends or built-in enemies

* The value of staying connected to family, even when relationships are complicated

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual!

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:
The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards

About Headgum:

Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com.

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